[sakai2-tcc] Planning for Sakai 2.10 and beyond

[Nate Angell]

Chick: You have many strong words, some of which are right and some
wrong, but rehashing the failure of the PC will do nothing to move
anything forward.

I move we all drop further discussion of that chapter and only talk
about what we are going to do next.

= nate

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Charles Severance <csev at umich.edu> wrote:
>
> On Sep 24, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Nate Angell wrote:
>
> While I agree that the formation of the Product Council was ineffective, a
> quick look at its membership shows that nearly all members were from
> stakeholder institutions putting substantial resources into Sakai—so that
> point is not why the PC didn't work. Also, the folks on the PC had Sakai's
> best interests at heart, just like other bodies such a the TCC. I tire of
> hearing the PC characterized as some sort of conspiracy. Let's talk about
> what we will do (thanks Steve!) rather than make up fake stories to
> illustrate what we won't do.
>
> Original PC members:
>
> Nate Angell, rSmart
>
> Noah Botimer, UM
>
> Eli Cochran, UCB
>
> Michael Feldstein, Oracle (at the time)
>
> Clay Fenlason, GT
>
> David Goodrum, IU
>
> John A. Lewis, Unicon
>
> Stephen Marquard, UCT
>
> John Norman, Cambridge
>
> Max Whitney, NYU
>
>
> Nate -
>
> The reason that the PC did not work is that its creation was solving a
> political problem where the pro-OAE members of the community were trying to
> stamp out the CLE efforts.   Trying to force the end-of-life of the CLE.
> The way the PC was formed was hand-picked political appointees selected by
> the former ED whose publicly stated goal at the time was to end-of-life the
> CLE.   Other than two token appointments to create an appearance of OAE-CLE
> balance, the members are straight from the OAE fan club member list circa
> 2010.
>
> The group was charged with thinking broadly about the global priorities of
> the Sakai community.  I am sure that all the members of the PC felt that
> they were thinking broadly and looking at things in a balanced manner, but
> the net result of the actions of the PC was "hands off" the OAE and loved
> everything the OAE did and pretty much threw a wet blanket on the CLE for
> the entire the lifetime of the PC.
>
> It was not a "conspiracy" - it was just a bad idea.   Any time you create
> governance with authority but no responsibility and let them run around and
> set policies and directions over resources that don't belong to them - it
> goes pear-shaped.
>
> /Chuck
>
>
>
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