[sakai2-tcc] [cle-kernel-team] [cle-release-team] retiring the kernel team

[Steve Swinsburg]

+1 to retiring this special list. Then it becomes like any other project in Jira, profile2 for example. And add the code review in front so that commits can be checked.
This is where github would be useful, everyone could just issue pull requests, though I am not opening that can of worms ;)

Cheers,
Steve

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On 19/06/2012, at 0:32, Aaron Zeckoski <azeckoski at unicon.net> wrote:

> I think the idea here is that the kernel team would not be a thing
> anymore. There would still be kernel committers and a kernel list but
> the team itself with the official policies around it would go away.
> 
> To remake the point I make in ATL, the vast majority of kernel tickets
> are only reviewed by 2 people (and some things are still going in
> without any review - not as much now but it was an issue earlier in
> the year). If people are not going to be active then I see no need to
> have an official team in place with 2 people on it.
> We can leave the team in place as it is, but it's not effective in
> it's current state IMO.
> 
> -AZ
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Matthew Jones <matthew at longsight.com> wrote:
>> Hi Aaron,
>> 
>> I believe that the 'kernel team' is a useful entity. A team to review code
>> changes, discuss architectural issues and keep some sense of actually
>> committing code to the the core is a good idea.
>> 
>> My problems were:
>> 
>> 1) In JIRA, you can only assign KNL issues to the kernel team. Even though
>> many kernel issues may not be actually worked on by the kernel team, but by
>> someone else and then submitted to the kernel team for review (either branch
>> or patch). If I can't assign an issue to myself and have it appear on my
>> dashboard I'll generally forget about it.
>>   1a) Of the people listed in that drop-down for assignees, about half of
>> them are very unlikely to resolve issues in the kernel in the short term
>> anyway; Ray Davis, Ian Boston, Jim Eng, Seth Theriault, Zach Thomas, Steve
>> Githens,
>> 
>> So I'd either split the jira assign list from the actual "kernel team" (like
>> have the assign list be the same as the SAK list) OR change the kernel team
>> completely to just be the most active people in the CLE community (based on
>> weekly commits and/or Thursday calls).
>> 
>> As far as Crucible is concerned the plugin is in Jira, but it required a
>> separate process to be installed on source.sakaiproject.org server. I can
>> work with Chris Maurer and get that connected. It looks like it has a 30 day
>> trial license you can generate, and afterward we'd need Anthony to use that
>> to supply an open source license. I'll set aside some time and look at
>> fisheye/crucible this week. I think the only holdup before was that I'd
>> forgotten my password and/or got busy with something else.
>> 
>> After I get it setup with the evaluation license I'll send this to Anthony.
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Aaron Zeckoski <azeckoski at unicon.net>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It was discussed/proposed that the kernel team as an entity has
>>> outlived it's usefulness and should be disbanded. Instead, there will
>>> simply be a small (initially) set of kernel committers and all commits
>>> going into the kernel will be required to go through a review
>>> application (like atlassian crucible).
>>> 
>>> The consensus was pretty strong at the conference but I wanted to give
>>> folks a chance to comment on list. We would need to talk to our
>>> atlassian hosting company to get crucible setup but I think Anthony
>>> Whyte could probably arrange that.
>>> 
>>> This isn't really a vote (yet).
>>> -AZ
>>> 
>>> 
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