[sakai2-tcc] Status of 2.8 additions, deprecations, and other changes

Speelmon, Lance Day lance at indiana.edu
Wed Sep 22 08:26:20 PDT 2010


Please see my responses inline.  Thanks, L


Lance Speelmon
Scholarly Technologist

On Sep 21, 2010, at 4:35 PM, csev wrote:

> I would like a bit of clarification - are we talking about a whole new webapp?  Are parts of it in trunk already and has incoming changes or is this a big code drop?

Part of hybrid is a new webapp that contains two servlets which provide REST endpoints. One lists sites for a given user and the other lists pages and tools for a given site.  Both execute in the context of the current user and are protected by the usual Sakai authz.

SAK-17222 and SAK-17223 were merged into trunk yesterday and are unrelated to the webapp although they do bind to hybrid-util at 1.0-SNAPSHOT which Anthony kindly added to  hudson build/deploy/repo.  

> 
> For me if this is changes to stuff that is already there that is off by default, I would support relaxing things.

SAK-17222 and SAK-17223 are both off by default.  The webapp REST endpoints are ON by default but could be easily be disabled by default if that is a concern.

> 
> If this is a whole new code drop that we have not yet seen, I would think that maybe the rush and bending the rules is less worth it because it is likely under rapid development still and will need to be re-released as it evolves.
> 
> So for me a little more detail would be helpful.
> 
> /Chuck
> 
> On Sep 21, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
> 
>> Re: Hybrid.  Lance is working on release issues currently for his hybrid artifact (a single webapp war).  I prefer that he not feel rushed in his work.  If he can't make the freeze deadline, I recommend strongly that we do not exclude his work from the release but schedule it's inclusion for the alpha2 tag.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anth
>> 
>> 
>>> - S3/Nakamura Hybrid (Lance Speelmon)
>>> 
>>> Lance has circulated his proposal to us and MT. I think some more 
>>> discussion is probably warranted and a formal vote should be taken.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 19, 2010, at 10:30 PM, Seth Theriault wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> In the haze of the run-up to the 2.8 code freeze (TUESDAY, 23:59 UTC), 
>>> I'd like to re-summarize our actions on the proposed additions and 
>>> deprecations for the next release based on information presented on 2.8 
>>> page:
>>> 
>>> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/TCC/List+of+Planned+2.8.0+Changes
>>> 
>>> What follows is my opinion, so I encourage your comments and corrections.
>>> 
>>> There are some things that are in trunk and have been "approved" (by 
>>> vote or consensus), while other things haven't. For those things that 
>>> need discussion and votes, I suggest that we get it done by the end of 
>>> this week.
>>> 
>>> == Deprecations
>>> 
>>> All of the proposed deprecations and removals seem to be in good shape. 
>>> They have been discussed, approved, and for most part, committed.
>>> 
>>> == Additions
>>> 
>>> Additions are much more murky. My sense is the following:
>>> 
>>> - CK Editor (Noah Botimer)
>>> 
>>> Noah is on top of this and has communicated what he plans to do by the 
>>> CF. I think we need to "approve" this for the record by vote or otherwise.
>>> 
>>> - BasicLTI Simple Outcomes (Chuck Severance)
>>> 
>>> It's in trunk, has a test plan, and Chuck is supervising it closely.
>>> 
>>> - ShortenedUrlService (Steve Swinsburg)
>>> 
>>> Currently in contrib. Some discussion has occurred, but no consensus 
>>> seems to have emerged about if and where it should be put into trunk. I 
>>> think this needs some sort of formal proposal and vote for clarity.
>>> 
>>> - Localization w/database back-end (John Bush)
>>> 
>>> The KNL part is in trunk, while the user-facing tool is in contrib. I 
>>> think consensus has formed around this split for 2.8. Like CK Editor, we 
>>> probably need to put the formal stamp on this.
>>> 
>>> - Quartz Job Scheduler (Duffy Gillman)
>>> 
>>> This is in trunk. The work was done in conjunction with the MT (the 
>>> maintainers of the job scheduler) and there seems to be consensus on its 
>>> inclusion. It probably needs the same "approval" for the record as the 
>>> above.
>>> 
>>> - Updated blog tool (Lancaster)
>>> 
>>> I think this is out for 2.8.
>>> 
>>> - Updated Roster tool (Lancaster)
>>> 
>>> There was a lenghty discussion on the list. It's out, and Lancaster has 
>>> decided to put this into contrib.
>>> 
>>> - S3/Nakamura Hybrid (Lance Speelmon)
>>> 
>>> Lance has circulated his proposal to us and MT. I think some more 
>>> discussion is probably warranted and a formal vote should be taken.
>>> 
>>> - MessageService
>>> 
>>> I haven't seen any discussion or action on this so I am assuming it's 
>>> out for 2.8.
>>> 
>>> - Email Notification Preferences (SAK-18859)
>>> 
>>> Chris Maurer has this work in a branch and notified sakai-dev (and 
>>> possibly us) 10+ days ago. I don't think it's in trunk yet and also has 
>>> a Kernel dependency (KNL-585). I think this needs focused discussion and 
>>> an approval by vote.
>>> 
>>> - Account Validation (David Horwitz)
>>> 
>>> It looks as though this is in trunk (based on the RES-2 comment and a 
>>> ViewVC check). It probably needs a formal stamp of approval.
>>> 
>>> == Architectural and library changes
>>> 
>>> I think there is consensus that no Tomcat 6/Java 1.6-related changes are 
>>> to be made for 2.8, but will be worked on for 2.9. In addition, no 
>>> Oracle-related deprecations will happen for 2.8.
>>> 
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