[Using Sakai] sakai-user Digest, Vol 71, Issue 9

Mary Morris mmorris at empireed.com
Wed Jan 14 12:30:05 PST 2015


I also subscribe to both groups and would be in favor of the merging of the
two.

Thanks, Neal and all!

Sincerely,
Mary

Mary F. Graham-Morris
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Mildred Elley
855 Central Avenue, Rm 220A | Albany, NY 12206
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: [DG: Teaching & Learning] Possible merge of Sakai-user
      and Pedagogy lists (Laura Gekeler)
   2. Re: [DG: Teaching & Learning] Possible merge of Sakai-user
      and Pedagogy lists (Josh Baron)


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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 14:46:37 -0500
From: Laura Gekeler <lgekeler at nd.edu>
Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] [DG: Teaching & Learning] Possible merge of
	Sakai-user and Pedagogy lists
To: "sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org Server"
	<sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>,
	"pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org"
<pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org>
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The question about Resources & Import from Site was from me, so I'll take a
stab at why I chose that list - my question wasn't directly related to
pedagogy but more of a "how is this supposed to work"  question. I'd be
relieved not to have to spend time thinking in depth about which group is
more likely to be interested in my question/comment/topic...

I subscribe to both groups and would be in favor of merging them.

Laura


Laura Gekeler
LMS Professional //Concurrent Instructor University of Notre Dame
P:574-631-2402


On 14 January 2015 at 13:14, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org> wrote:

> [to sakai-user and pedagogy]
>
> Hi All,
>
> We are in the process of a move from the current Collab email server 
> to using Apereo Google Groups. During the move I am wondering if it 
> makes sense to merge sakai-user and pedagogy into one list. Fewer 
> lists means simpler to pick the right list to which to post.
>
> Stats:
>
> # of subscribers to sakai-user : 694
> # of subscribers to pedagogy : 500
>
> # of subscribers overlapping (exist in both sakai-user and pedagogy): 
> 245
>
> It looks to me like the majority of posts to pedagogy are administrative.
> Meeting announcements, webinar announcements, conference announcements 
> are common. Occasional question like "*question about auto created 
> groups when using the Lessons tool and Forums". *
>
> Sakai-user has more questions on it, I think. "Resources management & 
> Import from Site", Making it so that the word "Sakai" does not appear 
> on any onscreen test, "adding another wiki tool".  Etc. Still 
> announcements there too , but seems like more questions.
>
> Sakai-user archives - 
> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-user/
> Pedagogy archives - http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/pedagogy/
>
> Please think about it and let me know what you think (feel free to 
> copy both lists. It could make it more of a conversation.)
>
> Thanks,
> Neal
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 14:52:57 -0500
From: Josh Baron <Josh.Baron at marist.edu>
Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] [DG: Teaching & Learning] Possible merge of
	Sakai-user and Pedagogy lists
To: Laura Gekeler <lgekeler at nd.edu>
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	<sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>,
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	pedagogy-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
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Little history here...

The pedagogy list dates back to the start of Sakai I believe (before I got
involved at least).  Over the years its use has ranged from mostly
administrative, planning calls, etc., to more strategic discussions around
teaching and learning issues.  I believe the Using Sakai list was created,
more recently, to give people a place to ask more functional questions about
how a tool works, etc.

In terms of my thoughts...

I think merging is best as I tend to end up posting to both all of the time
not knowing who is on one but not the other.  I would suggest that we
consider referring to this as the "teaching and learning list" or some
similar terms rather than pedagogy as over the years there have been
discussions around the term "pedagogy" being confusing to some in other
parts of the world where the term is not used much or because it can mean
different things to different people.  I think teaching and learning is
clearer (I actually think we tried to change the name at one point but hit a
technical issue and weren't able to do so).

FYI, Josh

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Joshua Baron
Senior Academic Technology Officer
Marist College
Poughkeepsie, New York  12601
(845) 575-3623 (work)
Twitter: JoshBaron



From:   Laura Gekeler <lgekeler at nd.edu>
To:     "sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org Server" 
<sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>, "pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org" 
<pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org>, 
Date:   01/14/2015 02:46 PM
Subject:        Re: [DG: Teaching & Learning] Possible merge of Sakai-user 
and Pedagogy lists
Sent by:        pedagogy-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org



The question about Resources & Import from Site was from me, so I'll take a
stab at why I chose that list - my question wasn't directly related to
pedagogy but more of a "how is this supposed to work"  question. I'd be
relieved not to have to spend time thinking in depth about which group is
more likely to be interested in my question/comment/topic... 

I subscribe to both groups and would be in favor of merging them.

Laura


Laura Gekeler
LMS Professional //Concurrent Instructor University of Notre Dame
P:574-631-2402


On 14 January 2015 at 13:14, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org> wrote:
[to sakai-user and pedagogy]

Hi All,

We are in the process of a move from the current Collab email server to
using Apereo Google Groups. During the move I am wondering if it makes sense
to merge sakai-user and pedagogy into one list. Fewer lists means simpler to
pick the right list to which to post. 

Stats:

# of subscribers to sakai-user : 694
# of subscribers to pedagogy : 500

# of subscribers overlapping (exist in both sakai-user and pedagogy): 245

It looks to me like the majority of posts to pedagogy are administrative. 
Meeting announcements, webinar announcements, conference announcements are
common. Occasional question like "question about auto created groups when
using the Lessons tool and Forums". 

Sakai-user has more questions on it, I think. "Resources management & Import
from Site", Making it so that the word "Sakai" does not appear on any
onscreen test, "adding another wiki tool".  Etc. Still announcements there
too , but seems like more questions.

Sakai-user archives - http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-user/
Pedagogy archives - http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/pedagogy/

Please think about it and let me know what you think (feel free to copy both
lists. It could make it more of a conversation.)

Thanks,
Neal







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