[Using Sakai] [Building Sakai] Does anyone know how the group permissions at the top of Resources tool work?

[Adam Marshall]

You go into Resources and click ‘Permissions’ at the top of the page. You should then see the main permissions page with a drop down list full of groups.

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You should be able to select a group from the list and set up permissions for that group.

adam

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Dr A C Marshall, WebLearn Service Manager, University of Oxford.
IT Services, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford. OX2 6NN.


From: Neal Caidin [mailto:neal.caidin at apereo.org]
Sent: 24 February 2015 18:53
To: Adam Marshall
Cc: Sakai-Dev; sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org Server
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] [Using Sakai] Does anyone know how the group permissions at the top of Resources tool work?

Finally came back to this issue.

I cannot reproduce the steps, even on Longsight qa10 server.  I've created a couple of groups but I don't see an option under Resources -> Permissions to select any of the groups and assign group specific permissions.

Puzzled.

-- Neal


On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Adam Marshall <adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk<mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk>> wrote:
We have just looked in to this. We have a scenario:

A lecturer wants 3 of his students to act as editors and upload PDFs into a folder in resources. He wants all other students to be able to read these PDFs. He doesn’t want to give the 3 editors a different role in the site.

So I suggested this.

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1/ Create 2 Site sub Groups

Student Authors: includes the 3 authors
Student Readers: includes all other students.

2/ In Resources – click on the Permissions button at the top of the screen

  a/ select Student Authors from drop down list and give them “create” permission (and edit & delete own)
 b/ select Student Readers from list and make sure they don’t have ‘Create’ etc

3/ We then create a subfolder and make available only to the 2 groups the idea being that people in Authors group will have and extra permission or 2 compared to the Readers group.

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If one logs in as a member of Authors group that one does indeed see the “Add” option in Resources

If one logs in as a Reader one also see the “Add” option.

In both cases the individual user can upload files.

That cant be right can it?

Unless I’m misunderstanding how things are supposed to work, then this is an escalation of privileges type bug isn’t it?

This is all in place on fawei-test on https://qa10.longsight.com/

adam


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IT Services, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford. OX2 6NN.


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Subject: [Using Sakai] Does anyone know how the group permissions at the top of Resources tool work?

Dear all,

Does anyone know how the group permissions at the top of Resources tool work?

The purpose of my test was to allow members in a group with access or student role to be able to create/delete files in a folder in Resources while other users with access (student) role in the site are still able to view the folder content.

This is how I tested:


•         Log into a Sakai project site as a maintain role (I believe it will be the same for a course site).  Create a group via Site Info > Manage Group.  The group includes a few access users (or students)

•         Go to Resources and click on “Permissions” at the top: see attached screen shot “Permissions -1”

•         On the next page, click on the drop-down list next to “Set permissions for” and select the group created, e.g. group, and then I granted ‘create’ and ‘delete own’ permissions for this group

As a result of above, I was hoping that  the group members would be able to create/delete files in Resources in the site.   However, after logging into the site as a group member, I was not able to create/upload files in Resources.  In other words, the settings above did not make much difference.

Could anyone please let me know where I did it wrong?

Many thanks in advance.

Fawei
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