[Using Sakai] WebDAV & Sakai

Mon Feb 16 11:22:00 PST 2015

As I am working on Sakai 10.4 release notes I came across this email thread
(a different Sakai list than sakai-user). "Tomcat" is Apache Tomcat and is
one of the software layers that Sakai uses. Tomcat runs the Java web
applications that are written for Sakai and when it came out with a new
version, it broke WebDav (recently).  Best I can understand it. See below.

"Versions of 10.x prior to 10.3 and 2.9.x prior to the 2.9.4 unreleased
branch are not webdav compatible with these newer versions of tomcat
because of
https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-28004

So people running 2.9 will need to upgrade their dav modules to the latest
maintenance branch, and 10 users should upgrade to the latest 10.x, 10.3 or
probably later this week, 10.4."

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Marilyn Dispensa <mdispensa at ithaca.edu>
wrote:

>  I just had a call from a user that used the Webdav connection info for
> Windows 7 for .xlsx files.  He opened an excel file submitted by a
> students, made some comments and resaved the file to the student’s
> dropbox.  The .xlsx mime type designation was lost so the icon was lost and
> when clicking on the link in the browser, it isn’t prompted to open Excel.
> I told him to ask students to save file and then it opens up fine.
>
> I’m also recommending CyberDuck. My question is that in our instance the
> description of ways to use “upload download resources” cites ways to do it
> via various Oss. If Cyberduck is truly the best way, why keep the
> instructions up there that aren’t as reliable?
>
> Marilyn
>
>
>
> *From:* sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
> sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Laura Gekeler
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 14, 2015 7:23 PM
> *To:* alaanizar
> *Cc:* marsh at uri.edu; sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org Server; Derek
> Moore
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Using Sakai] WebDAV & Sakai
>
>
>
> WebdAV is not disabled for us- but zip/unzip is.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Feb 14, 2015, at 5:30 PM, alaanizar <alaanizar at iihem.ac.ma> wrote:
>
>   Sometimes in the process of setting up sakai, we learned that sending
> files over webdav DOED NOT respect the QUOTA.
>
>
>
> May be that's why some institutions may remove it or disable it
>
>
>
>
>
> Alaa NIZAR
>
>
>
> Envoyé depuis un mobile Samsung.
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Laura Gekeler
>
> Date:14/02/2015 21:43 (GMT+00:00)
>
> To: Luke Fernandez
>
> Cc: "sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org Server" ,Derek Moore ,
> marsh at uri.edu
>
> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] WebDAV & Sakai
>
>
>
> Now that I've paused for a respectful moment of silence over WebCT ....
>
> I've heard that for those who do not use WebDAV, they find a feature which
> allows a zip file to be uploaded and unzipped on the server, and also
> allows for zipping up the folder/file structure of some or all folder/files
> in Resources and downloading them in zip fashion...
>
> I say "heard of" because this feature has been disabled on our hosted
> Sakai server and I haven't had time yet to dig into all the whys and
> wherefors. Certainly we wouldn't deprecate WebDAV without providing another
> way, such as zip/unzip to do bulk moves of files?
>
> Apart from zip/unzip , how many people find browser drop and drag
> reliable? (Or am I recapping conversation that took place already?)
>
>
>
>
> Laura Gekeler
> LMS Administrator //Concurrent Instructor
>
> Teaching and Learning Technologies
>
> University of Notre Dame
>
> P:(1) 574-631-2402
>
>
>
>
>
> On 14 February 2015 at 14:21, Luke Fernandez <luke.fernandez at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> True dat.  Webct had webdav.  In the bad bad old days.
>
> On Feb 14, 2015 12:13 PM, "Laura Gekeler" <LGekeler at nd.edu> wrote:
>
>  It works find with a 3rd party tool like Cyberduck (at least in my
> experience), it just doesn't work reliably from the operating system. And
> there once was another LMS on the planet which had WebDAV connections, but
> that LMS was purchased by Blackboard and decommissioned.
>
> Sakai stands alone.
>
> Laura
>
>
>
>
> Laura Gekeler
> LMS Administrator //Concurrent Instructor
>
> Teaching and Learning Technologies
>
> University of Notre Dame
>
> P:(1) 574-631-2402
>
>
>
>
>
> On 14 February 2015 at 13:08, Luke Fernandez <luke.fernandez at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> +1 for deprecating webdav or adding some serious disclaimers to the
> documentation.  I'm surprised it's still in Sakai.  It didnt work reliably
> in the early days of Sakai and if it still doesn't then it sounds like it's
> never going to measure up to user's expectations.  - Luke
>
> On Feb 14, 2015 7:42 AM, "Charles Severance" <csev at umich.edu> wrote:
>
>  Lots of outpouring of love for WebDAV - that is great since no other LMS
> on the planet has this functionality - WebDav is unique strength of Sakai.
> By the way - not all of the "Big 5" LMS have drag and drop upload so we are
> ahead there as well.
>
>
>
> I never said "delete" - only "deprecate".   But clearly even deprecate is
> a bad idea.  I got the message :).
>
>
>
> I guess we just need to review the documentation in "Upload / Download
> Multiple" and make *sure*we don't mislead users into thinking it is more
> capable than it is.
>
>
>
> /Chuck
>
>
>
> On Feb 14, 2015, at 5:59 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>   Survey says .....
>
>
>
>
> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/TCC/Sakai+Tool+Survey+Results+2014
>
>
>
> Over 80% use Upload-Download Multiple Resources. If you look at the
> comments, some explain problems with Shibboleth, recommending Cyberduck,
> with one "Quite useful though."  Comments on the survey are not required,
> so only a handful do.
>
>
>
> 70 institutions take the survey, so a reasonable sample size.
>
>
>
> -- Neal
>
>
>
>
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