[Using Sakai] WebDAV & Sakai

[Marilyn Dispensa]

I just had a call from a user that used the Webdav connection info for Windows 7 for .xlsx files.  He opened an excel file submitted by a students, made some comments and resaved the file to the student’s dropbox.  The .xlsx mime type designation was lost so the icon was lost and when clicking on the link in the browser, it isn’t prompted to open Excel.  I told him to ask students to save file and then it opens up fine.
I’m also recommending CyberDuck. My question is that in our instance the description of ways to use “upload download resources” cites ways to do it via various Oss. If Cyberduck is truly the best way, why keep the instructions up there that aren’t as reliable?
Marilyn

From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Laura Gekeler
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 7:23 PM
To: alaanizar
Cc: marsh at uri.edu; sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org Server; Derek Moore
Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] WebDAV & Sakai

WebdAV is not disabled for us- but zip/unzip is.

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On Feb 14, 2015, at 5:30 PM, alaanizar <alaanizar at iihem.ac.ma<mailto:alaanizar at iihem.ac.ma>> wrote:
Sometimes in the process of setting up sakai, we learned that sending files over webdav DOED NOT respect the QUOTA.

May be that's why some institutions may remove it or disable it


Alaa NIZAR

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-------- Original message --------
From: Laura Gekeler
Date:14/02/2015 21:43 (GMT+00:00)
To: Luke Fernandez
Cc: "sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org> Server" ,Derek Moore ,marsh at uri.edu<mailto:marsh at uri.edu>
Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] WebDAV & Sakai

Now that I've paused for a respectful moment of silence over WebCT ....
I've heard that for those who do not use WebDAV, they find a feature which allows a zip file to be uploaded and unzipped on the server, and also allows for zipping up the folder/file structure of some or all folder/files in Resources and downloading them in zip fashion...
I say "heard of" because this feature has been disabled on our hosted Sakai server and I haven't had time yet to dig into all the whys and wherefors. Certainly we wouldn't deprecate WebDAV without providing another way, such as zip/unzip to do bulk moves of files?
Apart from zip/unzip , how many people find browser drop and drag reliable? (Or am I recapping conversation that took place already?)


Laura Gekeler
LMS Administrator //Concurrent Instructor
Teaching and Learning Technologies
University of Notre Dame
P:(1) 574-631-2402


On 14 February 2015 at 14:21, Luke Fernandez <luke.fernandez at gmail.com<mailto:luke.fernandez at gmail.com>> wrote:

True dat.  Webct had webdav.  In the bad bad old days.
On Feb 14, 2015 12:13 PM, "Laura Gekeler" <LGekeler at nd.edu<mailto:LGekeler at nd.edu>> wrote:
It works find with a 3rd party tool like Cyberduck (at least in my experience), it just doesn't work reliably from the operating system. And there once was another LMS on the planet which had WebDAV connections, but that LMS was purchased by Blackboard and decommissioned.

Sakai stands alone.

Laura


Laura Gekeler
LMS Administrator //Concurrent Instructor
Teaching and Learning Technologies
University of Notre Dame
P:(1) 574-631-2402<tel:%281%29%20574-631-2402>


On 14 February 2015 at 13:08, Luke Fernandez <luke.fernandez at gmail.com<mailto:luke.fernandez at gmail.com>> wrote:

+1 for deprecating webdav or adding some serious disclaimers to the documentation.  I'm surprised it's still in Sakai.  It didnt work reliably in the early days of Sakai and if it still doesn't then it sounds like it's never going to measure up to user's expectations.  - Luke
On Feb 14, 2015 7:42 AM, "Charles Severance" <csev at umich.edu<mailto:csev at umich.edu>> wrote:
Lots of outpouring of love for WebDAV - that is great since no other LMS on the planet has this functionality - WebDav is unique strength of Sakai.  By the way - not all of the "Big 5" LMS have drag and drop upload so we are ahead there as well.

I never said "delete" - only "deprecate".   But clearly even deprecate is a bad idea.  I got the message :).

I guess we just need to review the documentation in "Upload / Download Multiple" and make *sure*we don't mislead users into thinking it is more capable than it is.

/Chuck

On Feb 14, 2015, at 5:59 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org<mailto:neal.caidin at apereo.org>> wrote:


Survey says .....

https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/TCC/Sakai+Tool+Survey+Results+2014

Over 80% use Upload-Download Multiple Resources. If you look at the comments, some explain problems with Shibboleth, recommending Cyberduck, with one "Quite useful though."  Comments on the survey are not required, so only a handful do.

70 institutions take the survey, so a reasonable sample size.

-- Neal


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