[Using Sakai] WebDAV & Sakai

[Neal Caidin]

Survey says .....

https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/TCC/Sakai+Tool+Survey+Results+2014

Over 80% use Upload-Download Multiple Resources. If you look at the
comments, some explain problems with Shibboleth, recommending Cyberduck,
with one "Quite useful though."  Comments on the survey are not required,
so only a handful do.

70 institutions take the survey, so a reasonable sample size.

-- Neal


On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 3:16 AM, Derek Moore <Derek.Moore at wits.ac.za> wrote:

> I'd be very sad to see WebDAV depreciated. There aren't many folk that
> used this service at Wits, and even less now that it's become so flakey,
> but when I demonstrated the service to colleagues, they were impressed.
>
> best,
> Derek
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> > On 13 Feb 2015, at 10:50 PM, Charles Severance <csev at umich.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 13, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Marshall Feldman <marsh at uri.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> Right, but a central part of my point is that if WebDAV is reduced to
> up & downloading, then it's not much different from FTP, rsync, and similar
> alternatives. This raises 2 issues: (1) why bother with WebDAV, since it's
> known to be problematic on the client side and apparently, since it can't
> be fully implemented easily, on the server side too; use one of the
> alternatives instead. (2) If it's limited WebDAV, with only some of full
> WebDAV's capabilities, then this needs to be stated clearly; don't say
> "Sakai supports WebDAV," and then after someone like me wastes an afternoon
> trying to get a certain WebDAV feature working, say "Oh, but not that
> feature of WebDAV."
> >
> >
> > WebDav is unfortunately  moving target - particularly the webdav
> implementations built into the various operating systems.  It is why
> CyberDuck is what we recommend - CyberDuck is much more consistent over
> time in its use of WebDav features.
> >
> > When we first put WebDav into Sakai in 2005 - we did it to solve the use
> case of a folder of data to be dragged and dropped since back then browsers
> could not handle drag and drop.
> >
> > And back in 2005 - the WebDAV clients in Apple and Windows were not the
> complex mess that they are now.   In a sense now that we have drag-and drop
> in Resources, WebDav is no longer essential for Sakai.
> >
> > Perhaps we should just deprecate it in Sakai 11 and remove any mention
> of it from the UI.  There is no other LMS on the planet that does WebDav
> that I know of.
> >
> > /Chuck
> >
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