[Using Sakai] Sakai 10 new feature : Site info > Page Order: disable a tool

Wed Sep 3 11:15:46 PDT 2014

Agree about resources,

You can still see the resources and files from where? From a link on the
portal or somewhere else? The lightbulb (hide) button buttons only prevents
access to the tool from the portal level. It doesn't actually block
anything on the tool level or put up any new security restrictions on
files. The disable button locks down the tool further (removes site.upd)
which removes it from more places, but still doesn't prevent access to
files if you know the URL and the user has access.

In Sakai 10, you can actually make folder Hidden, which allow access to the
contents but prevent seeing the actual folders. You can make folders/files
completely private/inaccessible or restrict access only to certain groups
through permissions at the directory level.

On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Bryan Holladay <holladay at longsight.com>
wrote:

> Resources may be a bad example to test with. I know that it has it's own
> settings when it comes to public and private data. Do you see this same
> behavior with other tools like forums, assignments, etc?
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Fawei Geng <fawei.geng at it.ox.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>  Many thanks Bryan for your swift response.  To provide a bit background
>> information, it is worth saying that we use “Project’ site at Oxford with
>> “Access” and “Maintain” roles.
>>
>>
>>
>> For the lightbulb, I thought it always works as ‘hidden’ feature ( was
>> not aware that it also disables the tool).  For example, we often hide the
>> ‘Resources’ tool from the left hand side and link the relevant
>> files/folders using the “Web content” tool which presents a neater view of
>> the files.   If the purpose of padlock is to hide and disable a tool,  is
>> this equivalent to removing the tool via Site Info> Edit tools?
>>
>>
>>
>> I am also a bit confused by the term ‘disable’ here after my experiment
>> (see below).  Although I disabled the Resources tool, the student can still
>> see the files.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is how I tried:
>>
>>
>>
>> Step 1.
>>
>>
>>
>> ·         Go to the top-level folder in Resources where contains a
>> number of files and folders
>>
>> ·         Click “Actions” next to the folder and select “Make Web
>> Content Link” to link Resources files/folder from the left hand side of the
>> page
>>
>>
>>
>> Step 2:
>>
>>
>>
>> Tested the padlock:
>>
>> ·         Go to Site Info > Page order > Padlock tool to disable
>> Resources
>>
>> ·         Log into the site as a ‘Access’ role and click on the Web
>> Content link, I still can see the Resources files/folders
>>
>> ·
>>
>> Step 3:
>>
>>
>>
>> Tested the removing tool from the site:
>>
>> ·         Undo what I did in Step 2 to put the tool back to its original
>> status
>>
>> ·         Go to Site Info > Edit tools> untick “Resources” from the left
>> hand side
>>
>> ·         Log into the site as a ‘Access’ role and click on the Web
>> Content link, again I can see the Resources files/folders
>>
>>
>>
>> To sum up, it seems that the padlock feature is the same as ‘removing
>> tool” via Site Info> Edit Tool.   Both methods do not really ‘disable’ the
>> tool.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any comments are very welcome.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>>
>>
>> Fawei
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Bryan Holladay [mailto:holladay at longsight.com]
>> *Sent:* 03 September 2014 13:44
>> *To:* Fawei Geng
>> *Cc:* sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Using Sakai] Sakai 10 new feature : Site info > Page
>> Order: disable a tool
>>
>>
>>
>> They have two distinct functionalities. The lightbulb is used to hide the
>> tool, but allows users to still access it. This was introduced for Lessons
>> where, for example, an instructor would want to use the forums tool inside
>> the lessons tool but not have the forums tool show up on the left hand
>> menu. The padlock replaced the old lightbulb's functionality where it hides
>> and disables the tool for users.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Bryan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Fawei Geng <fawei.geng at it.ox.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Here is the screenshot.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> Fawei Geng, FHEA CMALT MBCS
>>
>> Learning Technology Support Officer
>> IT Services, University of Oxford
>>
>> 13 Banbury Road, Oxford OX2 6NN
>>
>> Blog: http://blogs.oucs.ox.ac.uk/fawei/
>>
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/oxford4learning/
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
>> sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Fawei Geng
>> *Sent:* 03 September 2014 12:37
>> *To:* sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> *Subject:* [Using Sakai] Sakai 10 new feature : Site info > Page Order:
>> disable a tool
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I notice that Sakai 10 has a new feature in the Page Order tool: disable
>> a tool (the padlock icon - see attached screenshot).  Anyone knows the
>> purpose of having this new feature?   Doesn’t the hide a tool feature
>> (light bulb) have more or less the same functionality?  Would anyone like
>> to share their experience of using this new feature?
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Fawei
>>
>>
>>
>>
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