[Using Sakai] Resources Changes for Sakai 11
Diana Perpich
dperpich at umich.edu
Wed Feb 19 18:04:14 PST 2014
I dunno. I think that's maybe the problem. There's no single answer to that question. For some, why is because I want to move multiple files. For others, it's about moving big files and get around the per file upload limit. And for still others it's just because I like the ease of a desktop folder.
diana perpich | mlibrary mobile
> On Feb 19, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Margaret Wagner <mwagner at umich.edu> wrote:
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> To me, these don't tell users why:
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> - Desktop access
> - Set up desktop access
> - Client connect
> - Desktop access instructions
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> Am I right that users will have to click the button to see what it's for? Because that's not ideal UI.
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> I'd recommend giving the users more information -- tell them what the button is for:
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> - Transfer multiple files
> - Move multiple files
> - Upload-download multiple files
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> My preference is keeping the last one.
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>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Chris Kretler <ckretler at umich.edu> wrote:
>> That makes sense. Sounds like a good argument for that term being prominent in the documentation.
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>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Marilyn Dispensa <mdispensa at ithaca.edu> wrote:
>>> I like “Client Connect”. I understand steering clear of “webDAV” but when you use something like “Cyberduck” or NetDrive that has 5-6 connection type choices and the user needs to choose one that says “webDAV” then at least they can connect the terms together.
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>>> From: Chris Kretler [mailto:ckretler at umich.edu]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:54 PM
>>> To: Marilyn Dispensa
>>> Cc: Kirschner, Beth; Sakai User; sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org Developers
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>>> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Resources Changes for Sakai 11
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>>> I agree with the comments that 'Desktop' may give the wrong impression. We could use a term like 'Client Connect'. Keep in mind that the current button is significantly wider than the other buttons in that space. We'd like to skinny that up.
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>>> As far as WebDAV goes, we are going to steer away from that term. Polling indicated that 88% of our users are unfamiliar with the term WebDAV.
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>>> Chris Kretler
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>>> Business Analyst
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>>> University of Michigan
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>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Marilyn Dispensa <mdispensa at ithaca.edu> wrote:
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>>> Regarding “Desktop Access” Label.
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>>> Since the web-dav function is also very useful for connecting the Resources to tablets and phones, I’m thinking “Desktop” is sounding a little dated.
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>>> Maybe something like “File connections” or SakaiDrive or SakaiConnect or or even something simple like “Connecting Resources via Webdav”?
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>>> Others changes are great. Thanks!
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>>> Separate topic, but here is my wish list based on working with lots of end users. Not sure if these are in any future plans.
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>>> 1. Select multiple files and a download selected just from the web interface maybe to a .zip?
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>>> 2. Connect to cloud file storage like Google Drive, Dropbox, Box etc.
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>>> 3. Somehow visually or label separate folders created via Lesson builder from the rest of folders in resources (this messes some people up).
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>>> 4. Drag/drop functionality.
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>>> From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Ward, Lynn E.
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:23 PM
>>> To: Jeff Ziegler; Kirschner, Beth
>>> Cc: Sakai User; sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org Developers
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>>> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Resources Changes for Sakai 11
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>>> Or even “Desktop Access Instructions”.
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>>> Lynn Ward, Principal Systems Analyst
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>>> Teaching and Learning Technologies
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>>> University Information Technology Services
>>> Indiana University
>>> Information Technology and Communications Complex (IT 342K)
>>> 535 West Michigan Street, Indianapolis, IN 46202
>>> Phone: 317-278-5713 E-mail: leward at iu.edu
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>>> From: Jeff Ziegler <ziegler at umich.edu>
>>> Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 at 3:12 PM
>>> To: bethk <bkirschn at umich.edu>
>>> Cc: "sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org" <sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>, "sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org Developers" <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Resources Changes for Sakai 11
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>>> I think that "Setup Desktop Access" aligns more with the instructions the user will actually see when that button is clicked. "Desktop Access" is slightly shorter but might create the expectation that all you have to do is click to have desktop access to Resources.
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>>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 2:52 PM, "Kirschner, Beth" <bkirschn at umich.edu> wrote:
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>>> Hi all,
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>>> The University of Michigan is working on a series of small to moderate Resources tool enhancements for Sakai 11 (looking forward), and I wanted to bring them to your attention as well as for your opinions:
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>>> SAK-25709 Create option to hide/show columns in the Resources tool for a cleaner display based on user feedback we've received
>>> SAK-25668 Show soft-deleted files in a separate "trash" section, that includes the parent folder structure
>>> SAK-25766 Relabel button from 'Upload-Download Multiple Resources' to 'Desktop Access'
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>>> The last JIRA is the smallest, but possibly the most contentious, since it involves a change in terminology. We propose changing the Resources 'Upload-Download Multiple Resources' button to 'Desktop Access'. The thought is that this will provide a better (and shorter) label for users, as well as differentiating it from the cool new drag-n-drop UI that is available in Sakai 10 (SAK-22306).
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>>> Please let me know if you have any concerns with this relabeling - as with all UI strings in Sakai, you can always localize this string for your own institution in a properties file. Barring any objections, we'll commit this small change next week.
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>>> Thanks,
>>> - Beth
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>>> "New != better. Different != better. Only better == better."
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