[Using Sakai] Resources Changes for Sakai 11

Wed Feb 19 14:26:06 PST 2014

I agree that it should tell you what it does, however giving some sense
that this will require a connection to your local desktop, as opposed
through a GUI is important (and something I've heard in trainings and
reviewing feedback)

You could just call it it "Connect Desktop"  I think that may represent
that your local machine will be utilized, you'll need to take some
additional time/steps to get it working, and that you'll be doing something
to send files to/from in a bulk process - people already have the mental
schema that a 'desktop' contains their files, so I don't think there is a
need to explicitly say that in the tool's name.

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Margaret Wagner <mwagner at umich.edu> wrote:

> To me, these don't tell users *why*:
>
> - Desktop access
> - Set up desktop access
> - Client connect
> - Desktop access instructions
>
> Am I right that users will have to click the button to see what it's for?
>  Because that's not ideal UI.
>
> I'd recommend giving the users more information -- tell them what the
> button is for:
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> - Transfer multiple files
> - Move multiple files
> - Upload-download multiple files
>
> My preference is keeping the last one.
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> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Chris Kretler <ckretler at umich.edu> wrote:
>
>> That makes sense.  Sounds like a good argument for that term being
>> prominent in the documentation.
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>> ck
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>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Marilyn Dispensa <mdispensa at ithaca.edu>wrote:
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>>>  I like "Client Connect".  I understand steering clear of "webDAV" but
>>> when you use something like "Cyberduck" or NetDrive that has 5-6
>>>  connection type choices and the user needs to choose one that says
>>> "webDAV"  then at least they can connect the terms together.
>>>
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>>> *From:* Chris Kretler [mailto:ckretler at umich.edu]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:54 PM
>>> *To:* Marilyn Dispensa
>>> *Cc:* Kirschner, Beth; Sakai User; sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.orgDevelopers
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Using Sakai] Resources Changes for Sakai 11
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with the comments that 'Desktop' may give the wrong impression.
>>> We could use a term like 'Client Connect'.  Keep in mind that the current
>>> button is significantly wider than the other buttons in that space.  We'd
>>> like to skinny that up.
>>>
>>> As far as WebDAV goes, we are going to steer away from that term.
>>> Polling indicated that 88% of our users are unfamiliar with the term WebDAV.
>>>
>>> Chris Kretler
>>>
>>> Business Analyst
>>>
>>> University of Michigan
>>>
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>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Marilyn Dispensa <mdispensa at ithaca.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Regarding "Desktop Access" Label.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Since the web-dav function is also very useful for connecting the
>>> Resources to tablets and phones, I'm thinking "Desktop" is sounding a
>>> little dated.
>>>
>>> Maybe something like "File connections" or SakaiDrive or SakaiConnect or
>>>  or even something simple like "Connecting Resources via Webdav"?
>>>
>>> Others changes are great. Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Separate topic, but here is my wish list based on working with lots of
>>> end users. Not sure if these are in any future plans.
>>>
>>> 1.       Select multiple files and a download selected just from the
>>> web interface maybe to a .zip?
>>>
>>> 2.       Connect to cloud file storage like Google Drive, Dropbox, Box
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> 3.       Somehow visually or label separate folders created via Lesson
>>> builder from the rest of folders in resources (this messes some people up).
>>>
>>> 4.       Drag/drop functionality.
>>>
>>> Marilyn
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
>>> sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Ward, Lynn E.
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:23 PM
>>> *To:* Jeff Ziegler; Kirschner, Beth
>>> *Cc:* Sakai User; sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org Developers
>>>
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Using Sakai] Resources Changes for Sakai 11
>>>
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>>> Or even "Desktop Access Instructions".
>>>
>>> ==========================
>>>
>>> Lynn Ward, Principal Systems Analyst
>>>
>>> Teaching and Learning Technologies
>>>
>>> University Information Technology Services <http://uits.iu.edu/>
>>> Indiana University
>>> Information Technology and Communications Complex (IT 342K)
>>> 535 West Michigan Street, Indianapolis, IN 46202
>>> Phone: 317-278-5713  E-mail: *leward at iu.edu <leward at iu.edu>*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Jeff Ziegler <ziegler at umich.edu>
>>> *Date: *Wednesday, February 19, 2014 at 3:12 PM
>>> *To: *bethk <bkirschn at umich.edu>
>>> *Cc: *"sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org" <
>>> sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>, "sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.orgDevelopers" <
>>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Using Sakai] Resources Changes for Sakai 11
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think that "Setup Desktop Access" aligns more with the instructions
>>> the user will actually see when that button is clicked. "Desktop Access" is
>>> slightly shorter but might create the expectation that all you have to do
>>> is click to have desktop access to Resources.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> J
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>>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 2:52 PM, "Kirschner, Beth" <bkirschn at umich.edu>
>>> wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> The University of Michigan is working on a series of small to moderate
>>> Resources tool enhancements for Sakai 11 (looking forward), and I wanted to
>>> bring them to your attention as well as for your opinions:
>>>
>>> SAK-25709 Create option to hide/show columns in the Resources tool for a
>>> cleaner display based on user feedback we've received
>>> SAK-25668 Show soft-deleted files in a separate "trash" section, that
>>> includes the parent folder structure
>>> SAK-25766 Relabel button from 'Upload-Download Multiple Resources' to
>>> 'Desktop Access'
>>>
>>> The last JIRA is the smallest, but possibly the most contentious, since
>>> it involves a change in terminology. We propose changing the Resources
>>>  'Upload-Download Multiple Resources' button to 'Desktop Access'. The
>>> thought is that this will provide a better (and shorter) label for users,
>>> as well as differentiating it from the cool new drag-n-drop UI that is
>>> available in Sakai 10 (SAK-22306).
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any concerns with this relabeling - as
>>> with all UI strings in Sakai, you can always localize this string for your
>>> own institution in a properties file. Barring any objections, we'll commit
>>> this small change next week.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> - Beth
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>>> "New != better.  Different != better.  Only better == better."
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>>> Jeff Ziegler
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>>> ITS Teaching and Learning Group
>>> University of Michigan
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