[Using Sakai] Site Info -> Page Order -> Hide, Disable

[Andrea Schmidt]

I'm working on it. As for the 'hidden' forums tool, I had
created MSGCNTR-777.

Andrea

On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Beth Kirschner <bkirschn at umich.edu> wrote:

> I'm able to reproduce the problem with Forums, and have written this up as
> a separate sub-task under your JIRA. I think it would be helpful if you can
> create additional sub-tasks for each specific tool that you think is
> misbehaving - they are likely separate problems that need to be addressed
> in the code for the separate tools.
>
> Thanks,
> - Beth
>
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Andrea Schmidt wrote:
>
> > I understand why the hide option would be very useful,especially if the
> instructor would like weekly units in Lessons and wants to control how the
> students access the material.
> >
> > Since Assignments, Tests & Quizzes and Forums are easily added through
> Lessons, what would be the expected behavior of the links created
> automatically on the Home page?
> >
> > Forums are hidden on the menu, (as intended), are accessible through
> Lessons, (as intended), but if a someone posts to a Forum, a link shows up
> on the Home page of the site under Messages & Forums notifications, but
> Forums are not accessible to students through this link.
> >
> >  Assignments: if the instructor selects to post the assignment open date
> to Announcements, that link is also not accessible to students.
> >
> > I would think if a tool creates a link in the site and students are able
> to view the link, even if the tool is hidden on the menu, the student
> should be able to have access through the link. If the student should not
> have access, the links should not display, especially with Forums. With
> Assignments, the instructor can make sure not to post the open date to
> Announcements, but with  Forums, the instructor has no control and I would
> think having a link that doesn't work would be confusing to students.
> >
> > Thanks, Andrea
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Charles Severance <csev at umich.edu>
> wrote:
> > The problem is that if we completely lock the tool then if you add a
> quiz or discussion to Lesson Builder it will be locked too.
> >
> > If you hide it only - then Lesson builder can know about it and send
> users to it.
> >
> > Hide is most useful when a teacher wants to really control the structure
> in Lesson Builder and not allow the user to go into Samigo or Message
> Center and look around
> >
> > Lock is most useful when you want to build something and keep it
> completely inaccessible to the users and are not giving them links via
> Lesson Builder.
> >
> > /Chuck
> >
> > On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Andrea Schmidt wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I'm looking for information on the new Page Order feature under Site
> Info on 2.9. There is already a "hide" option, and now there is the lock
> icon with "Disable the following page for normal users". I'm confused on
> the expected behavior for each and the help files don't have any
> information. Both hide the item on the menu from the user. If an assignment
> is added through another tool that is visible to the students, what is the
> expected behavior for each option?
> >>
> >> Lock: Disable the following page for normal users
> >> Lightbulb: Hide the following page from normal users
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Andrea Schmidt
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