[Using Sakai] Math Science Equation Editing Options with FCKeditor
Ramon Eixarch Ferrer
ramon at wiris.com
Mon Jun 20 02:00:26 PDT 2011
Hi all,
Following the discussion of math science tools we have updated WIRIS equation editor in Sakai
http://www.wiris.com/plugins/docs/sakai
Best regards,
Ramon Eixarch
Maths for More - WIRIS
ramon at wiris.com
+34 932384684
+34 649752179
skype: ramoneixarch
twitter: twitter.com/wirismath/
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-user-
> bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] En nombre de Myburgh, Francette
> Enviado el: martes, 07 de junio de 2011 12:42
> Para: Daniel Merino; sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Asunto: Re: [Using Sakai] Math Science Equation Editing Options with
> FCKeditor
>
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> Hi Daniel
>
> We are currently evaluation both WIRIS and CodeCogs. It's interesting
> that you say CodeCogs is not as powerful as WIRIS, as the Latex
> functionality of CodeCogs was rated higher by our Mathematics
> department.
>
> We'll probably make a final decision by end June. The idea is to
> deploy one of these for interim use by academics and students, and then
> go with MathJAX if that becomes available in Sakai later on, but still
> retaining a WYSIWYG editor for the students. They are mostly not that
> proficient in Latex on first-year level and the editors should work
> better for them.
>
> Regards
> Francette Myburgh
> UNISA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-user-
> bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Merino
> Sent: 07 June 2011 09:46 AM
> To: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Math Science Equation Editing Options with
> FCKeditor
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> Here at the UPNA we are currently using the Codecogs FCKEditor plugin (
> http://www.codecogs.com/latex/integration/fckeditor/install.php ).
>
> His disadvantages are: 1) Not open-source. 2) Dependent of an external
> server. 3) Not free for a high use (you have to pay if your server
> generates more than 3000 images per day). 4) Not as powerful like, for
> example, the WIRIS one.
>
> However, if you just need a free solution for a small use, we have
> found
> it very suitable. Also, their authors are quite participative in their
> forums.
>
> Of course, if in the future there was included an open-source solution
> in Sakai, we would like to switch to it.
>
> Hope it helps.
> Regards.
>
> Amber D. Evans escribió:
> > Hannah,
> >
> > Thanks for asking (and sharing). I went to check it out and what I
> > find interesting is that WIRIS appears to look and function very
> > similar to the Blackboard 9.1 plug-in for equations. I know
> > first-hand that many faculty without LaTeX or MathML experience
> > welcome the use of something like this because it mimics the
> > experience of MathType in MS Word. This means an easy learning curve
> > and quick adoption even though it requires Java to run it.
> >
> > What I also like about it (even if it isn't open-source) is the
> > promised future inclusion of LaTeX and MathML. When that actually
> > happens, I think it's a very worthwhile product, but then cost may be
> > the issue. My two-cents: If you're looking for something to gain
> > widespread use through ease of use, this may be your ticket. If you
> > only have a handful of faculty who need this functionality, you may
> > still consider the existing options such as MathML or MimeTeX (see
> UVA
> > <https://collab.itc.virginia.edu/access/content/group/69ab6142-05e0-
> 4504-8040-8b4c95aec1a9/sakai-content/faq_mimeTex.html>
> > and VT for more info
> > <http://www.olcs.lt.vt.edu/scholar/handouts/handoutMimeTeX.pdf> on
> > their instance), or low-tech screen-shots of MathType from MS
> > Word/PowerPoint (not ADA-compliant, I know).
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Amber D. Evans
> >
> > Ph.D. Candidate, Instructional Design and Technology, Virginia Tech
> > 10+ years experience in Higher Education, Training, CMS/LMS, &
> > Professional Development
> > = = =
> > adevans at vt.edu <mailto:adevans at vt.edu>
> > | http://amsdiane.blogspot.com/ |
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/adevans | Text "amsdiane" to 50500
> > = = =
> > "Non scholae sed vitae discimus" ("We learn not for school but for
> > life") -Seneca
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Eixarch Ferrer, Ramon
> > <ramon at wiris.com <mailto:ramon at wiris.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> > This is Ramon Eixarch from the WIRIS team. WIRIS is now a good
> > solution for Sakai users based on images and MathML.
> >
> > In a few months we will have LaTeX support and also more options
> > beyond images to represent you math equations. Keep tuned. If you
> > are interested you can join our newsletter at
> > http://www.wiris.com/user/register
> >
> > Cordialment, Cordialmente, Best regards,
> >
> > Ramon Eixarch
> > Maths for More - WIRIS
> > ramon at wiris.com <mailto:ramon at wiris.com>
> > +34 932384684 <tel:%2B34%20932384684>
> > +34 649752179 <tel:%2B34%20649752179>
> > skype: ramoneixarch
> > twitter: twitter.com/wirismath/ <http://twitter.com/wirismath/>
> >
> >
> > > -----Mensaje original-----
> > > De: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
> > <mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>
> > [mailto:sakai-user- <mailto:sakai-user->
> > > bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
> > <mailto:bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>] En nombre de John
> Norman
> > > Enviado el: miércoles, 25 de mayo de 2011 19:01
> > > Para: Reeves, Hannah H.
> > > CC: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
> > <mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>; Grogan, David
> > > Asunto: Re: [Using Sakai] Math Science Equation Editing Options
> with
> > > FCK editor
> > >
> > > Just for fun I could ask the opposite question: has anybody got
> any
> > > evidence that we share a common conception of 'the' problem
> such
> > that a
> > > single solution could be identified. I notice that the wiris
> > solution
> > > involves images and when we selected jsMath for Wiki I think
> one
> > of our
> > > 'requirements' was to avoid images so text resizing worked for
> > > accessibility. Our then user community also welcomed the idea
> of
> > > authoring in the familiar LaTeX, which even today seems to
> enjoy a
> > > continued healthy following.
> > >
> > > I'm not pushing a solution here, just speculating that we may
> > have more
> > > than one problem within Math authoring and representation...
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On 25 May 2011, at 16:32, Reeves, Hannah H. wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Sakai Users,
> > > >
> > > > I know support for math/science equation editing has been
> under
> > > discussion for years in the Sakai community. Has anyone come up
> > with a
> > > solution that supports both rendering and authoring as a plug-
> in
> > to the
> > > FCK editor, by any chance?
> > > >
> > > > We are looking at WIRIS as a possibility and would be
> > interested in
> > > hearing from anyone who has explored this or something else and
> > > possibly found an acceptable solution.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.wiris.com/demo-java/pluginwiris/fckeditor_wiris/
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Hannah
> > > >
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