[Using Sakai] Math Science Equation Editing Options with FCKeditor
Myburgh, Francette
FMyburgh at unisa.ac.za
Tue Jun 7 03:41:59 PDT 2011
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Hi Daniel
We are currently evaluation both WIRIS and CodeCogs. It's interesting that you say CodeCogs is not as powerful as WIRIS, as the Latex functionality of CodeCogs was rated higher by our Mathematics department.
We'll probably make a final decision by end June. The idea is to deploy one of these for interim use by academics and students, and then go with MathJAX if that becomes available in Sakai later on, but still retaining a WYSIWYG editor for the students. They are mostly not that proficient in Latex on first-year level and the editors should work better for them.
Regards
Francette Myburgh
UNISA
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From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Merino
Sent: 07 June 2011 09:46 AM
To: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Math Science Equation Editing Options with FCKeditor
Hi everyone.
Here at the UPNA we are currently using the Codecogs FCKEditor plugin (
http://www.codecogs.com/latex/integration/fckeditor/install.php ).
His disadvantages are: 1) Not open-source. 2) Dependent of an external
server. 3) Not free for a high use (you have to pay if your server
generates more than 3000 images per day). 4) Not as powerful like, for
example, the WIRIS one.
However, if you just need a free solution for a small use, we have found
it very suitable. Also, their authors are quite participative in their
forums.
Of course, if in the future there was included an open-source solution
in Sakai, we would like to switch to it.
Hope it helps.
Regards.
Amber D. Evans escribió:
> Hannah,
>
> Thanks for asking (and sharing). I went to check it out and what I
> find interesting is that WIRIS appears to look and function very
> similar to the Blackboard 9.1 plug-in for equations. I know
> first-hand that many faculty without LaTeX or MathML experience
> welcome the use of something like this because it mimics the
> experience of MathType in MS Word. This means an easy learning curve
> and quick adoption even though it requires Java to run it.
>
> What I also like about it (even if it isn't open-source) is the
> promised future inclusion of LaTeX and MathML. When that actually
> happens, I think it's a very worthwhile product, but then cost may be
> the issue. My two-cents: If you're looking for something to gain
> widespread use through ease of use, this may be your ticket. If you
> only have a handful of faculty who need this functionality, you may
> still consider the existing options such as MathML or MimeTeX (see UVA
> <https://collab.itc.virginia.edu/access/content/group/69ab6142-05e0-4504-8040-8b4c95aec1a9/sakai-content/faq_mimeTex.html>
> and VT for more info
> <http://www.olcs.lt.vt.edu/scholar/handouts/handoutMimeTeX.pdf> on
> their instance), or low-tech screen-shots of MathType from MS
> Word/PowerPoint (not ADA-compliant, I know).
>
> Sincerely,
> Amber D. Evans
>
> Ph.D. Candidate, Instructional Design and Technology, Virginia Tech
> 10+ years experience in Higher Education, Training, CMS/LMS, &
> Professional Development
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>
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Eixarch Ferrer, Ramon
> <ramon at wiris.com <mailto:ramon at wiris.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> This is Ramon Eixarch from the WIRIS team. WIRIS is now a good
> solution for Sakai users based on images and MathML.
>
> In a few months we will have LaTeX support and also more options
> beyond images to represent you math equations. Keep tuned. If you
> are interested you can join our newsletter at
> http://www.wiris.com/user/register
>
> Cordialment, Cordialmente, Best regards,
>
> Ramon Eixarch
> Maths for More - WIRIS
> ramon at wiris.com <mailto:ramon at wiris.com>
> +34 932384684 <tel:%2B34%20932384684>
> +34 649752179 <tel:%2B34%20649752179>
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> twitter: twitter.com/wirismath/ <http://twitter.com/wirismath/>
>
>
> > -----Mensaje original-----
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> <mailto:bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>] En nombre de John Norman
> > Enviado el: miércoles, 25 de mayo de 2011 19:01
> > Para: Reeves, Hannah H.
> > CC: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
> <mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>; Grogan, David
> > Asunto: Re: [Using Sakai] Math Science Equation Editing Options with
> > FCK editor
> >
> > Just for fun I could ask the opposite question: has anybody got any
> > evidence that we share a common conception of 'the' problem such
> that a
> > single solution could be identified. I notice that the wiris
> solution
> > involves images and when we selected jsMath for Wiki I think one
> of our
> > 'requirements' was to avoid images so text resizing worked for
> > accessibility. Our then user community also welcomed the idea of
> > authoring in the familiar LaTeX, which even today seems to enjoy a
> > continued healthy following.
> >
> > I'm not pushing a solution here, just speculating that we may
> have more
> > than one problem within Math authoring and representation...
> >
> > John
> >
> > On 25 May 2011, at 16:32, Reeves, Hannah H. wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Sakai Users,
> > >
> > > I know support for math/science equation editing has been under
> > discussion for years in the Sakai community. Has anyone come up
> with a
> > solution that supports both rendering and authoring as a plug-in
> to the
> > FCK editor, by any chance?
> > >
> > > We are looking at WIRIS as a possibility and would be
> interested in
> > hearing from anyone who has explored this or something else and
> > possibly found an acceptable solution.
> > >
> > > http://www.wiris.com/demo-java/pluginwiris/fckeditor_wiris/
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Hannah
> > >
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