[Using Sakai] for learning material

Tue Nov 2 07:45:31 PDT 2010

If an assessment in Tests and Quizzes has a question with a link in the text (rather than an attachment) to a picture file in that site's Resources, when Import From Site is used, wouldn't the link to the picture in the assessment in the new site still refer to a picture in the old site?

From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Mame-Awa Diop
Sent: 02 November 2010 13:58
To: Jon Higham
Cc: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org; Marshall Feldman; Patrick Lynch
Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] for learning material

Hi everybody,

Really interesting discussion. 
Here at HEC Montreal (creator of OpenSyllabus) we've just completed the copy behaviour of OpenSyllabus content. 
Since in OpenSyllabus we reference most of the entities of Sakai (Resources - Assignments - Tests and Quizzes ....) when we copy the site all  the references made in OpenSyllabus are updated.
We find it makes teachers life a lot easier.

This part will be available soon.

Cheers

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Sujet : Re: [Using Sakai] for learning material
De : Jon Higham <J.Higham at hull.ac.uk> <mailto:J.Higham at hull.ac.uk> 
Pour : Marshall Feldman <marsh at uri.edu> <mailto:marsh at uri.edu> , sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org, Regimantas Maciulskis <regimantas.maciulskis at gmail.com> <mailto:regimantas.maciulskis at gmail.com> 
Copie à : Patrick Lynch <P.Lynch at hull.ac.uk> <mailto:P.Lynch at hull.ac.uk> 
Date : 2010-11-02 09:42

Paul Dagnall (dagnalpb at notes.udayton.edu) at the University of Dayton
has done some excellent work on updating the site ids in links when
content is copied using Import From Site for the tools Announcements,
Assignments, Homepage, Samigo (Tests and Quizzes) and Syllabus.

At Hull, we have also made changes to update links to site ids for text
type documents (txt, html, xml) for Resources and changed the way Melete
updates its links when using Import From Site.

I can provide patch files for anyone who is interested.

Jon Higham
ICT Dept
University of Hull

-----Original Message-----
From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
[mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of
Marshall Feldman
Sent: 02 November 2010 13:24
To: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] for learning material

Regimantas,

I generally keep learning material on a regular web server and only use 
Sakai as a front end. Several considerations led me to this.

When Sakai tools are copied between course sites, their links do not 
update to the corresponding tool's URL on the new site. For instance, if

you have a lesson with a link to the testing tool, tools like Melete 
Modules will still point to the old site's tool. For regular web pages, 
I've written a jQuery plugin that uses a single table for each course 
site and automatically updates links on web pages to the addresses in 
the table (e.g. <a href="$TESTS"> has the current site's URL for $TESTS 
substituted). I couldn't figure out any way to do this with Sakai's 
built-in tools without having access to and modifying Sakai's source
code.

Also, when files stored on our Sakai server are updated, Sakai seems to 
generate a new URL. So even just keeping the web pages on Sakai and 
using my plugin doesn't work. I will, however, be moving readings and 
other things that do not change to a publicly accessible site on the 
Sakai server. With the current arrangement, I find it much easier, for 
example, to make a mid-semester change to the syllabus and not have to 
go through all my learning pages, track down, and change all references 
to the syllabus,

One big advantage of this approach is that you are not restricted to 
Sakai's built-in tools for e-learning. For instance, you can use 
interactive flash, mind maps, or whatever. One disadvantage is that you 
don't have some of the integration that Sakai provides. But I find 
integration among Sakai's tools is not very strong (e.g., when you send 
an email to a student from the testing tool, Sakai uses regular email 
rather than its own email tool), and ordinary web pages with my jQuery 
plugin actually provide better integration in many instances.

I haven't released the plugin publicly because is not yet documented, 
but it is easy to use and I could send you a link.

     Marsh Feldman

On 11/2/10 [Nov 2, 10] 8:13 AM, 
sakai-user-request at collab.sakaiproject.org wrote:

	Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 11:47:47 +0200
	From: Regimantas Maciulskis<regimantas.maciulskis at gmail.com> <mailto:regimantas.maciulskis at gmail.com> 
	Subject: [Using Sakai] for learning material
	To:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
	Message-ID:
	  <AANLkTikJ5ttE1vrObAsqJb8zMezef18TCXY-hYzKsz=v at mail.gmail.com> <mailto:AANLkTikJ5ttE1vrObAsqJb8zMezef18TCXY-hYzKsz=v at mail.gmail.com> 
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	Hello,
	I would like to know where to put learning material in Sakai? In
	moodle I used text page. What tools in Sakai is to put learning
	material? I know that i can put docs in resources, but it is not true
	e-learning.
	Thank you very much.
	Regimantas

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