[Using Sakai] for learning material

Mame-Awa Diop mame-awa.diop at hec.ca
Tue Nov 2 06:58:24 PDT 2010


Hi everybody,

Really interesting discussion.
Here at HEC Montreal (creator of OpenSyllabus) we've just completed the 
copy behaviour of OpenSyllabus content.
Since in OpenSyllabus we reference most of the entities of Sakai 
(Resources - Assignments - Tests and Quizzes ....) when we copy the site 
all  the references made in OpenSyllabus are updated.
We find it makes teachers life a lot easier.

This part will be available soon.

Cheers

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Mame Awa Diop
Analyste programmeur
Service de gestion des technologies et de l'information
HEC Montréal
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GTI: 514.340.6000 #2029 - Bureau 3.755
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-------- Message original --------
Sujet : Re: [Using Sakai] for learning material
De : Jon Higham <J.Higham at hull.ac.uk>
Pour : Marshall Feldman <marsh at uri.edu>, 
sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org, Regimantas Maciulskis 
<regimantas.maciulskis at gmail.com>
Copie à : Patrick Lynch <P.Lynch at hull.ac.uk>
Date : 2010-11-02 09:42
> Paul Dagnall (dagnalpb at notes.udayton.edu) at the University of Dayton
> has done some excellent work on updating the site ids in links when
> content is copied using Import From Site for the tools Announcements,
> Assignments, Homepage, Samigo (Tests and Quizzes) and Syllabus.
>
> At Hull, we have also made changes to update links to site ids for text
> type documents (txt, html, xml) for Resources and changed the way Melete
> updates its links when using Import From Site.
>
> I can provide patch files for anyone who is interested.
>
>
> Jon Higham
> ICT Dept
> University of Hull
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
> [mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of
> Marshall Feldman
> Sent: 02 November 2010 13:24
> To: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] for learning material
>
> Regimantas,
>
> I generally keep learning material on a regular web server and only use 
> Sakai as a front end. Several considerations led me to this.
>
> When Sakai tools are copied between course sites, their links do not 
> update to the corresponding tool's URL on the new site. For instance, if
>
> you have a lesson with a link to the testing tool, tools like Melete 
> Modules will still point to the old site's tool. For regular web pages, 
> I've written a jQuery plugin that uses a single table for each course 
> site and automatically updates links on web pages to the addresses in 
> the table (e.g. <a href="$TESTS"> has the current site's URL for $TESTS 
> substituted). I couldn't figure out any way to do this with Sakai's 
> built-in tools without having access to and modifying Sakai's source
> code.
>
> Also, when files stored on our Sakai server are updated, Sakai seems to 
> generate a new URL. So even just keeping the web pages on Sakai and 
> using my plugin doesn't work. I will, however, be moving readings and 
> other things that do not change to a publicly accessible site on the 
> Sakai server. With the current arrangement, I find it much easier, for 
> example, to make a mid-semester change to the syllabus and not have to 
> go through all my learning pages, track down, and change all references 
> to the syllabus,
>
> One big advantage of this approach is that you are not restricted to 
> Sakai's built-in tools for e-learning. For instance, you can use 
> interactive flash, mind maps, or whatever. One disadvantage is that you 
> don't have some of the integration that Sakai provides. But I find 
> integration among Sakai's tools is not very strong (e.g., when you send 
> an email to a student from the testing tool, Sakai uses regular email 
> rather than its own email tool), and ordinary web pages with my jQuery 
> plugin actually provide better integration in many instances.
>
> I haven't released the plugin publicly because is not yet documented, 
> but it is easy to use and I could send you a link.
>
>      Marsh Feldman
>
> On 11/2/10 [Nov 2, 10] 8:13 AM, 
> sakai-user-request at collab.sakaiproject.org wrote:
>   
>> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 11:47:47 +0200
>> From: Regimantas Maciulskis<regimantas.maciulskis at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Using Sakai] for learning material
>> To:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> Message-ID:
>> 	<AANLkTikJ5ttE1vrObAsqJb8zMezef18TCXY-hYzKsz=v at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Hello,
>> I would like to know where to put learning material in Sakai? In
>> moodle I used text page. What tools in Sakai is to put learning
>> material? I know that i can put docs in resources, but it is not true
>> e-learning.
>> Thank you very much.
>> Regimantas
>>     
>
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