[Using Sakai] migrate from angel to sakai?

Mon Nov 9 07:15:00 PST 2009

Yes, I was just about to say the same thing.  Thanks, Nate.

Our page, although it addresses WebCT, gives some of the dirty details 
of the conversion from one format to another, which may call for some 
editing of the questions types even when both platforms are 
QTI-compliant.  Our issue was mostly WebCT calculated questions, and our 
staff member Rory Jarrard wrote a script to handle much (but not all) of 
the migration process.

For the instructor who uses the questions types amenable to Quick 
Create, we recommend downloading from the commercial platform with 
Respondus, and maintaining the question database in plain text, suitable 
for developing and editing, as well as easy uploading into Sakai exams 
through T&Q/Samigo Quick Create-- which obviates the whole import format 
problem.

Nate Angell wrote:
>  Also, University of Wyoming has done some work to get more advanced
>  test types migrated to Sakai (in their case from WebCT), but their
>  example may prove instructive.
> 
http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/CNF/Early+Experiences+with+WebCT-to-Sakai+Exam+Question+Migration+%28CalcQuest%29
>
>
>  Robin Hill at UWY may be able to shed more light on their experience.
>
>
>  On Nov 7, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Mark Norton wrote:
>
> > Be warned that IMS-CC doesn't fully support QTI question
> > definitions. Instead, a limited subset is supported.  This may
> > cause problems in migration if more advanced question types were
> > used.
> >
> > - Mark Norton
> >
> > Sam Ottenhoff wrote:
> >> Hi Steve,
> >>
> >> I have seen two different export formats from Angel:
> >>
> >> 1) IMS-CC format (imsmanifest.xml in root directory)
> >>
> >> This format appears to export all relevant items from a course
> >> site as "webcontent".  This means that all relevant information
> >> from various tools (Announcements, Assignments, etc) gets
> >> imported to Sakai's Resources tool.
> >>
> >> Sakai can import this package with a few modifications to the
> >> existing blackboard_6 (extending the common cartridge code)
> >> parser code.  I would be glad to send over these modifications if
> >> this kind of import is helpful.
> >>
> >> I have seen IMS-QTI files included in this package, but the
> >> imsmanifest.xml does not indicate that these files are intended
> >> for Tests & Quizzes (they are marked as "webcontent" also).
> >>
> >> You can find the IMS-QTI files on a *nix machine like this:
> >>
> >> find ./ -name \*.xml|xargs grep questestinterop
> >>
> >> Once found, you should be able to import these IMS-QTI files
> >> directly into Tests & Quizzes.
> >>
> >> 2) Angel XML format (angelData.xml in root directory)
> >>
> >> This XPath expression on angelData.xml should provide you links
> >> to the relevant Angel assessment XML files:
> >>
> >> /clldata/Assessments/Assessment/@href
> >>
> >> Note that this format appears to be serialized data from the
> >> database. However, in these XML files, you can do a search for :
> >>
> >> <field name="_qtiXml">
> >>
> >> The contents of those fields should provide a fairly
> >> straightforward pathway to bringing the content into a new system
> >> like Sakai.
> >>
> >> --Sam
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Steve Jensen wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yup, we've been there and done that Nate.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be an easy way to get
> >>> quiz/ question info *out* of Angel.  I'm halfway hoping that
> >>> someone has written some scripts that will read the db and
> >>> generate appropriate XML files.
> >>>
> >>> Steve
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *** NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS - DOMAIN CHANGE ***
> >>>
> >>> steve.jensen at sfcollege.edu
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- Steve Jensen Santa Fe College Gainesville, Fl
> >>>
> >>> steve.jensen at sfcollege.edu ICQ # 3440385
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Nate Angell wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Steve: As you probably know, migration as a whole from any
> >>>> platform to any other rarely has a simple, one-size-fits all
> >>>> answer.
> >>>>
> >>>> The good news about exams is that if you can get exams out of
> >>>>  Angel in a standard format (eg, QTI), you can bring them
> >>>> into Sakai without trouble. Sometimes some intermediary
> >>>> processing in a tool like Respondus can help.
> >>>>
> >>>> When we work with clients on migration, we help them develop
> >>>> a roadmap based on example courses in actual use in their
> >>>> current platform, mapped to migration paths to Sakai. I think
> >>>> that's a good model to follow whatever your move will be.
> >>>>
> >>>> -- Nate Angell Client Evangelist http://www.rsmart.com
> >>>>
> >>>> On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:44 AM, Steve Jensen wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Has anyone actually migrated from Angel (7.3?) to Sakai?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If so, what was your process? How much of your content
> >>>>> (esp. exams!) was able to come over without major effort?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any documentation out there on it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Steve
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *** NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS - DOMAIN CHANGE ***
> >>>>>
> >>>>> steve.jensen at sfcollege.edu
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- Steve Jensen Santa Fe College Gainesville, Fl
> >>>>>
> >>>>> steve.jensen at sfcollege.edu ICQ # 3440385
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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