[WG: Sakai QA] why a separate step to join sites?

[Branden Visser]

Branden Visser wrote:
> If the site is joinable by any authenticated user, would it make sense 
> to make the site public for .auth users, and change the "join" 
> terminology to something like "bookmark"? That way new sites that the 
> users may have been browsing wouldn't be automatically popping up in 
> their "Active Sites" list.
> 
> Is there any developing (or existing) functionality for a user to be 
> able to request access to a site where the site maintainers are given 
> the option to deny access from the joiner? In this case, "joining" is 
> still a valid work-flow.
> 

http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-8167

> Best,
> 
> Branden
> 
> David Haines wrote:
>> Currently if you try to access a site that you can join but have not yet 
>> joined you'll get a "site unavailable" message.  Among other things this 
>> makes inviting people to a site awkward.  If you create a site and email 
>> a URL to people who can have access they'll need to manually join before 
>> they get access.  At Michigan we're running a modified version of code 
>> that Ian Boston created that will automatically join people to sites 
>> they are eligible to join but this requires distributing a special URL.
>>
>> But if you are trying to access a site that you have permission to join 
>> what is the use of having an explicit join step?  I do see the use of a 
>> tool that lists separately sites you have joined and sites you can join. 
>>  I see the value of being able to unjoin sites you no longer need to a 
>> member of.  I just don't see the use of requiring someone to explicitly 
>> join a site.
>>
>> Is there some reason that the default behavior of Sakai (2.x) should not 
>> be changed to automatically join people to sites they are trying to 
>> visit as long as they are eligible to join the site?
>>
>> This question comes from looking at 
>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-15832.
>>
>> Any comments are welcome.
>>
>> - Dave
>>
>> David Haines
>> CTools Developer
>> Digital Media Commons
>> University of Michigan 
>> dlhaines at umich.edu <mailto:dlhaines at umich.edu>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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