[WG: Sakai QA] [DG: User Experience] User Experience] why a separate step to join sites?

[Noah Botimer]

I'd like to clarify what I think are two similar proposals here.

I hear Dave suggesting implicit join on visit. I hear Adam suggesting  
that joinable mean visitable, but join remaining explicit.

Personally, I would favor the latter (fewer side effects). Maybe  
something in/near the tool menu (portal level)?

Thanks,
-Noah

On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:53 AM, Adam Marshall wrote:

> I’d fully support this.
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> We’ve had lots of problems with this. People cant understand why  
> there cant be a link on the “unavailable” page saying “click here  
> to join this site” – it’s a no-brainer!
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> Adam
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> From: sakai-ux-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-ux- 
> bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of David Haines
> Sent: 24 July 2009 15:33
> To: Sakai QA; Sakai UX
> Subject: [DG: User Experience] why a separate step to join sites?
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> Currently if you try to access a site that you can join but have  
> not yet joined you'll get a "site unavailable" message.  Among  
> other things this makes inviting people to a site awkward.  If you  
> create a site and email a URL to people who can have access they'll  
> need to manually join before they get access.  At Michigan we're  
> running a modified version of code that Ian Boston created that  
> will automatically join people to sites they are eligible to join  
> but this requires distributing a special URL.
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> But if you are trying to access a site that you have permission to  
> join what is the use of having an explicit join step?  I do see the  
> use of a tool that lists separately sites you have joined and sites  
> you can join.  I see the value of being able to unjoin sites you no  
> longer need to a member of.  I just don't see the use of requiring  
> someone to explicitly join a site.
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> Is there some reason that the default behavior of Sakai (2.x)  
> should not be changed to automatically join people to sites they  
> are trying to visit as long as they are eligible to join the site?
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> This question comes from looking at http://jira.sakaiproject.org/ 
> browse/SAK-15832.
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> Any comments are welcome.
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> - Dave
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> David Haines
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> CTools Developer
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> Digital Media Commons
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> University of Michigan
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> dlhaines at umich.edu
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