[sakai-pmc] [sakai-core-team] Sakai 11 status and planning - discussion

[Neal Caidin]

whoops, meant to loop in sakai-dev list.

see below.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org> wrote:

> We discussed Sakai 11 on the Sakai Core team call yesterday.
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> In my opinion we should proceed with committing to Sakai 11 with Morpheus
> and developing a schedule. Having a schedule and milestones helps many in
> the community with both their institutional planning and their planning for
> involvement in Sakai QA and in contributing their patches back to trunk.
> And it helps give core team members extra motivation as well.
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> We discussed the possibility of a 10.5 release with some of the trunk
> features, with the main advantage being that we could get a release out for
> summer (northern hemisphere, june/july). Some of those features include
> Samigo performance enhancements, the new Dashboard tool, potentially the
> Lessons Enhancement Project (LEaP) Phase 1, potentially the new Gradebook
> spreadsheet entry functionality, etc. However, the timeline for some of
> these features aren't clear yet. Samigo performance enhancements are done
> (I think) and Dashboard is on in trunk, so that's good.
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> We discussed that it is getting harder and harder to merge back from trunk
> to the Sakai 10 branch because they are diverging so much , and in some
> cases fixes in Sakai 11 have to be rewritten to work in 10, plus additional
> QA required. To me, among other things, that is an argument against having
> a 10.5 that has significant new features. I worry it would be a bit of a
> Frankenstein, and like the fabled monster, hard to manage.
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> On the other hand, Morpheus isn't quite ready yet, and it would make it
> easier to plan if the other tool improvements were further along (checked
> into trunk, etc). Makes it difficult to have a firm schedule.
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> I still think we can have a tentative schedule, which we know we will have
> to revisit once things are further along in these projects, but it could be
> a great starting point.
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> 2 cents and a cup of coffee.
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> Neal
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> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Adam Marshall <adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk
> > wrote:
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>>  I think you are 100% spot on. Morpheus has to be in Sakai 11.
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>> adam
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>> ** Note change of email address to adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk **
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>> Dr A C Marshall, WebLearn Service Manager, University of Oxford.
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>> IT Services, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford. OX2 6NN.
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>> *From:* sakai-core-team-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
>> sakai-core-team-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Neal
>> Caidin
>> *Sent:* 26 January 2015 17:07
>> *To:* sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org;
>> sakai-core-team at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> *Subject:* [sakai-core-team] Sakai 11 status and planning - discussion
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>> [sakai-pmc, sakai-core-team]
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>> Hi All,
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>> I thought it would be good to continue the discussion regarding Morpheus,
>> Sakai 11, and the schedule with PMC and Sakai core team lists before moving
>> to the sakai-dev list. So here it is.
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>> Morpheus is making great progress and we should see some commits coming
>> into Github from Mark Reilly, probably this week. There is also some
>> discussion of a sprint in February.
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>> My perception is that we are heading to a decision that our release
>> schedule should be based on Morpheus and the QA effort that will be
>> necessary to make this successful. I am leaning towards proposing this
>> "officially" so that we can firm up the schedule. Given that Morpheus is
>> not fully baked yet, and that there will need to be a large QA testing
>> effort, I would forecast we would complete Sakai 11 in Q4 2015. There is no
>> harm in setting a target of early August so that if we make fast progress,
>> one of our early adopters could launch in Fall 2015.
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>> I've started a Pros and Cons and Assumptions Google doc
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>> http://bit.ly/1uRoOgq
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>> Interested in hearing what you think.
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>> Thanks!
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>> Neal Caidin
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>> Sakai Community Coordinator
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