[sakai-pmc] [sakai-forum] Re: What do we think of this so far?

[Neal Caidin]

Fortunately, Anthony W. has done much of this ground work and already
consolidated and removed many lists as compared with a year or so ago. I'll
go back and look at the spreadsheet he created and make a plan based on
where we are now and share the plan.

It will involve reaching out to the existing lists so we don't have too
much of a heavy hand in making the changes. I'll post the plan to the PMC
though after that we can just do it (primarily Ian and myself it sounds
like). :-)

Cheers,
Neal


On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 5:13 AM, Ian Dolphin <ian.dolphin at apereo.org> wrote:

> It would strike me that it is appropriate to raise the potential futures
> of many of the lists being discussed with the lists themselves - or at
> least to provide the opportunity for voices from those lists to be heard
> by directly approaching them. The right people to decide whether a
> portfolio list is still required are members of the portfolio list -
> likewise Ja-Sakai, and at least some of the others I've seen mentioned.
>
> If it would be helpful for the Foundation (AKA, in this case, Neal and
> myself) to help with consultation and any transition, I'm sure we could
> work something out.
>
> Best
>
> Ian D
> > Jean-Francois Leveque <mailto:jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr>
> > 7 January 2015 09:55
> > That consolidation doesn't sound good to me.
> >
> > Mixing i18n, a11y, docs and QA seems wrong.
> >
> > Is portfolio still needed, when OSP is not maintained and the new
> > portfolio project is independent?
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> > Steve Swinsburg <mailto:steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>
> > 6 January 2015 20:22
> > Yep, that consolidation sounds good too.
> >
> > I still have the question as to why the google group would exist under
> > the apereo.org <http://apereo.org> umbrella and not just a main google
> > group. What do we achieve? Do we lose anything in terms of visibility
> > and discoverability?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Noah Botimer <mailto:botimer at umich.edu>
> > 6 January 2015 16:04
> > Sold. Now what about the mapping? It seems clear that activity is
> > somewhat lower and less diverse than in times past. Even though many
> > have been consolidated already, here is a further strawman:
> >
> > gradebook2-dev, evaluation, samigo-team, sakai-mobile -> sakai-dev
> >
> > infrastructure -> sakai-core-team
> >
> > portfolio -> pedagogy
> >
> > i18n, accessibility, sakai-docs -> sakai-qa
> >
> > (and maybe something with eurosakai, ja-sakai, sakai-france, sakai-au)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Noah
> >
> >
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> > Matthew Jones <mailto:matthew at longsight.com>
> > 6 January 2015 15:18
> > The monthly costs of the server that host mailman and Jenkins together
> > was something like $150 a month. We really don't need that Jenkins
> > instance anymore because we have a Jenkins running on AWS now with the
> > new nightlies.
> >
> > We could put mailman on an EC2 (either the current machine or a micro)
> > and shut down this existing machine to save the foundation money but
> > someone would have to set it up with our custom hacks and
> > configuration which would probably take at least a few hours.
> >
> > But I think we also figured Google groups provided more benefits even
> > over the cost savings, such as better archives of the messages,
> > searching and a forum style web view.
> >
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> > Noah Botimer <mailto:botimer at umich.edu>
> > 6 January 2015 15:10
> > So, uhh... Is Mailman a problem? I mean: what is the total time +
> > dollar cost annually?
> >
> > I don't mind consolidation and outsourcing but it kind of feels like
> > fiddling unless there are other costs and issues unknown to me.
> >
> > I suppose we're moving other core workflow/infrastructure bits around
> > now, so it's as good a time as any. This isn't an objection -- just
> > wondering why the new mouse trap's better, since it might shape the
> > transition (à la grand unification).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Noah
> >
> >
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