[sakai-pmc] [DG: Open Forum] Plan - from Mailman to Google groups

[Neal Caidin]

Great question! Thanks! D'oh.

Yes, we would move the Security email group and the Security contacts 
email group, and the Private PMC email group over to Google groups, as 
private groups.

I think I forgot to include them in the proposal because when I go to 
the collab.sakaiproject.org site, I don't see them (and I was using that 
as a checklist, which of course are only showing for public lists).

We will not make public the message archives. So I guess we would lose 
old messages, unless someone wants to find a way to move over with APIs 
and such. I am making an assumption that Google groups structure can 
provide the privacy we need, based on settings. Please correct me if I'm 
wrong.


-- Neal


> Berg, Alan <mailto:A.M.Berg at uva.nl>
> February 2, 2015 at 10:41 AM
> Hi all,
>
> Pardon me if I missed some information, but what is happening with the 
> Security WG email address and archives policy.
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
>
> Alan Berg
>
> Innovation working group
> On the use of ICT in Education & Research
> University of Amsterdam
> Postbus 1025 / 1000 BA Amsterdam
> Weesperzijde 190 / 1097 DZ Amsterdam
>
> ________________________________________
> From: sakai-pmc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org 
> [sakai-pmc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] on behalf of Seth 
> Theriault [slt at columbia.edu]
> Sent: 02 February 2015 16:35
> To: Neal Caidin
> Cc: sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Subject: Re: [sakai-pmc] [DG: Open Forum] Plan - from Mailman to 
> Google groups
>
> Hello,
>
> [Dropping everyone except the PMC]
>
> I have two questions for clarification (and perhaps repetition due to
> my ignorance):
>
> 1) Will a collab.sakaiproject.org MX be preserved so that mail to old
> lists will automagically go to the new lists?
>
> 2) Will the static archives be accessbile via the old collab URLs?
>
> Seth
>
>
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> Neal Caidin <mailto:neal.caidin at apereo.org>
> February 2, 2015 at 9:14 AM
> [all 21 Sakai lists that exist currently]
>
> *Proposal*
> Movement of Sakai lists to Apereo Google Groups infrastructure.
>
> *Decision Making*
> All opinions are welcome and encouraged. A material objection raised 
> by a Sakai PMC member will block this proposal.  Silence equals 
> consent. Monday, February 9, 2015 is the cutoff date for any objections.
>
> *Plan*
>
>   * Communicate to lists to being merged or moved. Provide a date for
>     when move is happening.
>   * Create new Apereo Google groups and populate with members from
>     Mailman (collab lists). When combining multiple lists, populate
>     with members from all of the lists into the one list.
>   * Start using new Google group, turn off corresponding mailman list(s).
>   * Move old list archives to static web space.
>   * Repeat as needed for all lists until done.
>
>
> *Proposed set of Apereo Google Groups*
> sakai-openforum at apereo.org <mailto:sakai-openforum at apereo.org>
> sakai-user at apereo.org <mailto:sakai-user at apereo.org>
> sakai-production at apereo.org <mailto:sakai-production at apereo.org>
> sakai-core-team at apereo.org <mailto:sakai-core-team at apereo.org>
> sakai-dev at apereo.org <mailto:sakai-dev at apereo.org>
> sakai-docs at apereo.org <mailto:sakai-docs at apereo.org>
> sakai-pmc at apereo.org <mailto:sakai-pmc at apereo.org>
> sakai-qa at apereo.org <mailto:sakai-qa at apereo.org>
> sakai-spanish at apereo.org <mailto:sakai-spanish at apereo.org>
> portfolio at apereo.org <mailto:portfolio at apereo.org> (no longer a 
> sakai-specific list)
>
> *Consolidating Lists*
> * pedagogy and sakai-user merging into sakai-user at apereo.org 
> <mailto:sakai-user at apereo.org>
> * i18n (internationlization/localization) and a11y (accessibility) 
> merging into sakai-dev. Convention for users to add [i18n] and [a11y] 
> in subject line for filtering.
> * evaluation and gradebook2-dev and samigo and sakai-mobile merging 
> into sakai-dev
> * infrastructure merging into sakai-core-team
> * sakai-au - not being migrated.
> * sakai-france - not being migrated
> * builds - not being migrated
> * ja-sakai - not being migrated
> * eurosakai - not being migrated. Already have an Apereo Europe google 
> group.
> * source - not being migrated. Need to remove post commit hook from SVN.
>
> *Lists not being migrated*
> We will still move the old list archives to a static web presence, 
> even for lists not being migrated.
>
> *Timing*
> Will be variable based on lists, and communication with those 
> sub-communities. Intent is to get this done in the next couple of 
> months, by April/May timeframe for completion. Will start migration of 
> lists during February 2015.
>
> Thanks,
> Neal
>
>
>

-- 
Neal Caidin
Sakai Community Coordinator
Apereo Foundation
neal.caidin at apereo.org
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