[sakai-pmc] Stack exchange site

Fri Jun 13 13:36:12 PDT 2014

I think we should continue with the Sakai one as well, just getting onto
the next stage. We have about 10 people that have joined the site but not
voted up questions or posted any questions. We need that to occur. Once we
get into the next stage we can start piling the questions and answers on
the new site.

I have only received feedback from the uPortal SG at this stage in regards
to the Apereo one.

Also I am wondering if posting the Sakai questions to the public stack
overflow site with the Sakai tag is going to harm this Stack Exchange
community effort in the long run. We'll have content fragmented and
duplicated. I am not sure if we can move questions. Maybe hold off on that
for now until we finalise a direction with this effort (since there are
three at the moment).

On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 11:28 PM, Aaron Zeckoski <azeckoski at unicon.net>
wrote:

> Yeah, we should wait for the results of that exploration before we spend
> time on the sakai only one.
> -AZ
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
> wrote:
>
>> That sounds pretty good.
>>
>> I guess the next question is timing. Since Steve is exploring an
>> Apereo-level area51, maybe we should wait till that is settled (assuming
>> this is decided by the end of June)?
>>
>>
>> -- Neal
>>
>>
>>   Matthew Jones <matthew at longsight.com>
>>  June 13, 2014 at 8:51 AM
>> I think my ideal at the moment (since people can't get answers on area51
>> would be)
>>
>> - Someone posts a question on stackoverflow with the sakai tag
>> - Someone also signs up on
>> http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/70749/sakai and posts the same
>> question (or more) there
>>
>> I'm not sure how we'd communicate that to this list. It looks like some
>> people have been copying over good questions that are posted to this list
>> and answering them, as we'd need rep from those questions and answers to
>> get beyond further phases of the site process.
>>
>>
>>
>>   Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
>>  June 13, 2014 at 8:47 AM
>>  Maybe we should be pushing harder to move questions more aggressively
>> from the sakai-dev list to Stack Trace?
>>
>> Perhaps we should notify the sakai-dev list about this experiment so we
>> can enlist their support?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Neal
>>
>>
>>
>>   Steve Swinsburg <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>
>>  June 12, 2014 at 6:27 AM
>> Hi JF,
>>
>> At the PMC meeting, a discussion point came up about the quality and
>> accuracy of the technical documentation of Sakai. To sum it up, there is a
>> lot of good info on the mailing list but its almost impossible to find.
>>
>> We discussed ways of making it easier to discover, one being a confluence
>> plugin, one being in the code and versioned (once we move to git), and one
>> being a stack exchange site. With SE we can create a community, however
>> there are certain criteria that need to be met including the number of
>> contributors, visits, questions, answers, 'level' of the users etc etc.
>> This criteria may be difficult to meet based on the number of active Sakai
>> users.
>>
>> You can read back through this thread a discussion about making an Apereo
>> community on SE rather than just a Sakai one - united we are stronger and
>> all that. Initially I wasn't in favour of that but now think it might be a
>> goer and have contacted the uPortal, CAS and Bedework sterring groups to
>> see if they want to join in. If they do, then we can maybe go in that
>> direction, if not we may be able to get the Sakai site up. If not, move on
>> to some other strategy.
>>
>> One thing we agreed on was that we need to increase the visibility of the
>> activity of Sakai - this allows us to do that. Mailing lists are very
>> private, even though they are open to all. Confluence is as well IMO.
>> Having a public website that anyone can read/post on was seen as a positive
>> note for the visibility of Sakai.
>>
>> We agreed to trial some of these strategies and see where we go. So I
>> setup the site, and checked out the criteria etc so it didnt linger or fall
>> off the radar. With the recent announcements from other major contributing
>> universities and the direction they are taking, we all agreed we needed to
>> act fast and kick it up a gear.
>>
>> I hope that brings you up to speed.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>   Jean-Francois Leveque <jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr>
>>  June 12, 2014 at 4:13 AM
>> Still hard for me not being able to attend the meeting this year. :(
>>
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>>   Steve Swinsburg <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>
>>  June 11, 2014 at 4:47 PM
>> They may appear to be major roadblocks but it may not end up being too
>> difficult. The 'beer' proposal is already in public beta, has less than 1
>> question per day, 61 avid users and 156 visits per day
>>
>> http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/48905/beer
>> http://beer.stackexchange.com/
>>
>> I've received positive feedback from the uPortal SG, they are going to
>> add it as a discussion item.
>>
>> We did agree to try this out at the PMC meeting, lets see where it goes.
>>
>>
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>>
>> --
>> Neal Caidin
>> Sakai Community Coordinator
>> Apereo Foundation
>> neal.caidin at apereo.org
>> Skype me! (but let me know in advance for the first interaction) -
>> nealkdin
>>
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