[sakai-pmc] Reminder- meeting tomorrow : Community survey - Re: PMC - CLECC meeting, Thursday, October 10, 1 pm Eastern / 5 pm GMT

Steve Swinsburg steve.swinsburg at gmail.com
Tue Oct 8 17:34:17 PDT 2013


It does indeed. Current version works in trunk fine, need to check JSF
version/upgrade status if any.


On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:21 AM, May, Megan Marie <mmmay at iu.edu> wrote:

>  I have a question about Signup – doesn’t it use JSF?  ****
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> *From:* Steve Swinsburg [mailto:steve.swinsburg at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 08, 2013 7:20 PM
> *To:* Anthony Whyte
> *Cc:* Matthew Jones; May, Megan Marie; sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org
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> *Subject:* Re: [sakai-pmc] Reminder- meeting tomorrow : Community survey
> - Re: PMC - CLECC meeting, Thursday, October 10, 1 pm Eastern / 5 pm GMT**
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> We don't need incubation for tool promotions unless we as the PMC
> recommend it - ie the project was very new or we saw issues with it that
> needed to be worked through, or if the developer wanted it themselves. But
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> All of these tools have been proposed for promotion and discussed before,
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> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Anthony Whyte <arwhyte at umich.edu> wrote:*
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> I disagree.  I see no reason why we need to submit anything to the IWG.
> We can handle adding signup or any other new capability to Sakai, an
> existing software project and community, ourselves.****
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> The PMC can handle the above.  It's one of the reasons we exist.  I've
> already talked to Yale about licensing for instance (their code is licensed
> ECL v1 and copyrighted Yale University, for instance).****
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> anthony whyte | its and mlibrary | university of michigan |
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> On Oct 8, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Matthew Jones wrote:****
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> I would think that any new tool that is going to move from contrib to core
> is going to need to go through the Apereo incubation process right? This
> isn't incredibly different from the old tool incubation process which
> specifically would want a brief proposal as mentioned on 3.3****
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> http://www.apereo.org/content/s3-core-process****
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> http://www.apereo.org/content/s4-exit-criteria****
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> It looks like nobody from Yale has committed to signup for 2 months. While
> Adrian is still active on Roster2.****
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> I would think that these 2 as well as Dashboard, and Delegated access
> (which is running in all our clients and has hooks into kernel) could be
> written up for consideration and would make solid contributions for the
> next release, but not if it would any would effect the release timeline,
> which already has a ton of work we need to do to get it ready.****
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> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 6:53 PM, May, Megan Marie <mmmay at iu.edu> wrote:****
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> Just looked at the schedule.     Isn’t it a bit late to talk about this
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> *From:* sakai-pmc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
> sakai-pmc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Anthony Whyte
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 08, 2013 6:50 PM
> *To:* Steve Swinsburg****
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> *Cc:* sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org
> *Subject:* Re: [sakai-pmc] Reminder- meeting tomorrow : Community survey
> - Re: PMC - CLECC meeting, Thursday, October 10, 1 pm Eastern / 5 pm GMT**
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> Yeah, I'd like to see roster 2 on the list as well.****
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> On Oct 8, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Steve Swinsburg wrote:****
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> I won't be at the meeting but in regards to the sign up tool, I have
> worked on that tool extensively over the past few years so can assist with
> getting it into core if we decide on that.****
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> Can we add roster 2 to the list? There are lots of things that are in good
> shape that we can add, been discussed for ages, would be good to move to a
> pmc vote.****
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> On 09/10/2013 5:39 AM, "Neal Caidin" <neal.caidin at apereo.org> wrote:****
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> http://etherpad.ctools.org/pmc-clecc-2013-10-10****
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> On Oct 8, 2013, at 12:28 PM, "May, Megan Marie" <mmmay at iu.edu> wrote:****
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> I think that it’s beneficial to have this information posted somewhere.
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> *From:* Neal Caidin [mailto:nealcaidin at sakaifoundation.org] *On Behalf Of
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 08, 2013 12:20 PM
> *To:* May, Megan Marie
> *Cc:* sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org
> *Subject:* Re: [sakai-pmc] Reminder- meeting tomorrow : Community survey
> - Re: PMC - CLECC meeting, Thursday, October 10, 1 pm Eastern / 5 pm GMT**
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> Agenda items are buried in the thread:****
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> * Community Survey ****
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> * Anything related to 2.10 that feels timely - which right now feels like
> the schedule; and maybe defining what an "Alpha" should be****
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> * How to get in community contributions like Yale Signup tool? Timing? -
> Just curious on this one. I think this is more of a PMC thing and not a
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> * Improvements/automation feasible for QA ?
> https://github.com/johntbush/sakai-test-suite  - I'm very curious about
> ideas for nurturing Selenium based scripts. I could see this an Apereo
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> * Any thoughts on how to keep our Jira Prod list updated? - Not sure if
> this is worth revisiting. Maybe a way to think of this, are there
> better/easier mechanisms to have our community institutions self report on
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> P.S. Please feel free to contribute items you would like to see on the
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> On Oct 8, 2013, at 12:10 PM, "May, Megan Marie" <mmmay at iu.edu> wrote:****
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> Is the agenda (and any supporting materials) up somewhere that I can take
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> *From:* sakai-pmc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-
> pmc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Neal Caidin
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:22 AM
> *To:* sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org
> *Subject:* Re: [sakai-pmc] Reminder- meeting tomorrow : Community survey
> - Re: PMC - CLECC meeting, Thursday, October 10, 1 pm Eastern / 5 pm GMT**
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> Whoops. Uhmmm.. we are meeting the day after tomorrow, Thursday - PMC -
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> Aaron and I are presenting on Wednesday. No conflict.****
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> My brain is in it's own time. It is a new day that combines Wednesday and
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> Also, I keep meaning to mention that I have a few conferences coming up in
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> 1) S2U in Madrid.  First week in November. Presenting on Sakai. ****
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> 2) NJEdge conference, in New Jersey (NJ).
> http://conference.njedge.net/2013/   .  They are "sneaking me in" as a
> poster presenter. Looking forward to it. Naturally will have some bullet
> points about Sakai in general, also Rutgers in specific and may also have
> info on Murcia and UNC-CH (they've offered to provide some bullet points).
> I'm not allowed to "sell" Sakai, which is okay, since that is not what I
> want to do anyway. Conference organizers want me to show use cases about
> Sakai and mention Open source (I guess I need a couple of bullets about
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> All Things Open Conference in Raleigh -
> https://all-things-open.ticketbud.com/all-things-open   . Participant,
> not presenting. If you see particular topics on the program you would like
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> NC PMI conference - (I'm a certified PMP project manager through
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> https://www.ncpmi.org/event/2013-annual-conference - going on my own
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> It will probably need to be slightly less than an hour, since Aaron and I
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> I changed question #10 again on the draft survey.****
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> I've taken some additional feedback and incorporated it into the survey.
> I'm thinking about deleting question #10. Not sure yet. I tried to tweak
> the wording of questions so that they are less "jargony".  I think running
> it by a non-technical person or group might be a good idea before
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> This may be on the agenda.****
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> * Anything related to 2.10 that feels timely****
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> * Improvements/automation feasible for QA ?
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