[sakai-pmc] Meta-thoughts about Proposals

[May, Megan Marie]

When I used CC that meant community coordinator.

I also think that marketing and communication should leverage the channels people rely on.  Go ahead and add more but don't dictate.


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On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:09 AM, "Noah Botimer" <botimer at umich.edu<mailto:botimer at umich.edu>> wrote:

There are so many push and pull communications channels now. I hesitate to CC a bunch of lists. We have a web presence, there are blogs/RSS, things like Twitter, and emails. List emails have the worst authority, persistence, and general browseability.

If I were "managing the brand", I would recommend a regular blog post with interesting updates (coordinated with the newsletter so it's not confusing about what wins). I would one-time notify a bunch of the lists that our community coordinator is sharing/summarizing the things he thinks the community should know there. And I would use the @sakaiproject Twitter account to announce the updates when they are posted. This combination gives a known place with a clear channel and archive of information, supported by good search and multiple user-controlled notification/aggregation methods.

If there is someone who wants the list traffic, sakai-dev is the place. If someone just wants to be able to check in on "what's happening", just one more email in the bin is a low percentage shot. Get it on the web and to places where people aggregate/share.

Thanks,
-Noah

On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:39 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org<mailto:neal.caidin at apereo.org>> wrote:

Thanks for the feedback Megan and Sam.

So I guess what I did was okay, it sounds like. I do get occasional feedback from community members that they do not want to subscribe to the sakai-dev list because it is a lot of information not relevant to them, but they do want to stay connected to the community. I've never formally polled the community on this, fyi, just anecdotal.

Cheers,
Neal



On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:59 PM, May, Megan Marie <mmmay at iu.edu<mailto:mmmay at iu.edu>> wrote:
I think that once a proposal matures into a decision that it should be widely shared.     If the next release is going to be Sakai 10, that is something the entire community should know!      It’s more about ensuring there is an informed community rather than creating transparency.

The entire community shouldn’t need to monitor the dev list; rather the CC should be surfacing key topics.

Megan

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Subject: Re: [sakai-pmc] Meta-thoughts about Proposals

Sakai-dev is wide open, has been our most active list for a decade, and is where dev changes have traditionally been discussed.  If you want to encourage people that are not members of sakai-dev to get involved, by all means, do it.  But I don't see how requiring cross-posting will achieve improved transparency.  I would instead suggest that you post to these various lists that being a member of sakai-dev is encouraged if people want to stay up to date on Sakai development and changes. If someone is only subscribed to the pedagogy list but really wanted to know about upcoming dev, then they are lost and need your help.

--Sam

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org<mailto:neal.caidin at apereo.org>> wrote:
Hi PMC,

There have been two important proposals in the last week. I think the selection of which lists to which to post in both cases is reasonable, to hit the intended audiences most likely to want a say and provide valuable input to the process.

However, I believe we should be even more transparent and essentially notify just about everybody (except probably for the Announcements list). For these two proposals: Sakai 10 and Sakai online help, I just sent links to the archive discussions to several more lists to inform them.

Does anyone agree with me on the transparency concept? I wonder what the best way to achieve this would be?

Best,
Neal



Neal Caidin
Sakai CLE Community Coordinator
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