[Building Sakai] Email Template Service and Kernel

[David Horwitz]

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Dave

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org> wrote:

> Update on this.
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> On the Sakai Core team call it was determined that the email notification
> code was the offending section. So only the email notification part of this
> feature is being reverted. The feature is staying in.
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> Cheers,
> Neal
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> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Kirschner, Beth <bkirschn at umich.edu<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bkirschn at umich.edu');>
> > wrote:
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>> I'd vote for reverting SAK-24423 in the 10.x branch if it can be done
>> cleanly.
>>
>> - Beth
>>
>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Matthew Jones <matthew at longsight.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','matthew at longsight.com');>>
>> wrote:
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>> > Yeah, that sounds good to me too. But that still leaves this patch. So
>> I guess your second point brings up the other decision. Do we revert the
>> SAK-24423 feature from 10, leaving it for 11 because of this problem or
>> leave it in there hoping that this ETS service has a resolution, which is
>> merged into 10 before the release?
>> >
>> > I don't *think* it would be a lot of work but there's going to be
>> minimally pom changes across every tool that uses ETS, so maybe better left
>> for 11.
>> >
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>> > On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Kirschner, Beth <bkirschn at umich.edu<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bkirschn at umich.edu');>>
>> wrote:
>> > I think it's worthwhile to preserve the concept of a self-contained
>> kernel. Adding ETS to the kernel, while keeping the tool outside of the
>> kernel makes a lot of sense to me. That said, I'd think starting this work
>> in the Sakai 10 branch would be a mistake.
>> >
>> > - Beth
>> >
>> > On Mar 14, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Matthew Jones <matthew at longsight.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','matthew at longsight.com');>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > There was an issue that came up that Matthew Buckett noticed that I
>> think should have some more attention so I'm putting it out here for some
>> feedback.
>> > >
>> > > https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/KNL-1202 - Kernel depends on
>> email template service.
>> > >
>> > > The dependency came about from a commit in
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-24423, this change is in Sakai
>> 10 as it was in before the cut over. (qa03) We had a discussion on the past
>> in https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/KNL-484 about whether or not ETS
>> should be in kernel, with a few people agreeing. Though on this ticket
>> Matthew looks to be in disagreement from the comments and believes that it
>> should remain separate.
>> > >
>> > > Any opinions on this? I believe that if we did add ETS service to
>> kernel, we'd still want the ETS tool to be left out, like how content is
>> still partially outside of kernel. Otherwise it seems like only way to
>> resolve this issue would be to revert
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-24423 or rework that patch to
>> not send notifications from the kernel (It's doing this in BaseSiteService).
>> > >
>> > > I don't know even how big a deal it is anymore for monolithic Sakai.
>> Is there even an expectation that you should be able to build kernel
>> without building everything else? I think maybe kernel should still be a
>> special exception, though maybe not.
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