[Building Sakai] new web content tool error

Brian Baillargeon bbailla2 at uwo.ca
Wed Jul 30 13:24:04 PDT 2014 

Sounds like web content needs to run javascript along the lines of:
URL is valid?:
     submit
URL is invalid?:
     encodeURI()
     valid now?:
         submit

On 14-07-30 12:58 PM, Cris J Holdorph wrote:
> Which is probably what the old web content tool did and what the new web
> content tool should probably do.
>
> ---- Cris J H
>
> On 07/30/2014 09:51 AM, Aaron Zeckoski wrote:
>> It looks like the actual request that gets sent (from chrome anyway) is this:
>> q=sakai%20and%20apereo
>> I might be misreading what chrome is doing but that's what it looks
>> like from the debug.
>> -AZ
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Cris J Holdorph <holdorph at unicon.net> wrote:
>>> A "url with spaces" can be reproduced (have not tried using it with the
>>> web content tool) by typing into your address bar of your browser.
>>>
>>> For example if I search for "sakai and apereo" (without quotes) into a
>>> google search, I get the following URL:
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=sakai+and+apereo
>>>
>>> However, I can edit that and replace the value after the 'q' with
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=sakai and apereo
>>>
>>> and I get the same resulting page.
>>>
>>> ---- Cris J H
>>>
>>> On 07/30/2014 09:22 AM, Neal Caidin wrote:
>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any specific examples of URLs that have spaces?  We would
>>>> need this in order to see if we can reproduce the problem. If we cannot
>>>> reproduce it, no way to fix it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Neal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Adam Marshall <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk>
>>>>> July 30, 2014 at 12:19 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> No specific system but I’m sure our users will find one! Either that
>>>>> or they’ll type in a URL which contains spaces.
>>>>>
>>>>> adam
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> ** Note change of email address to adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk
>>>>> <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk> **
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr A C Marshall, WebLearn Service Manager, University of Oxford.
>>>>>
>>>>> IT Services, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford. OX2 6NN.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Sam Ottenhoff [mailto:ottenhoff at longsight.com]
>>>>> *Sent:* 30 July 2014 17:12
>>>>> *To:* Adam Marshall
>>>>> *Cc:* sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Building Sakai] new web content tool error
>>>>>
>>>>> What system is providing your users with invalid characters?  How do
>>>>> users arrive at links with spaces?
>>>>>
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>>>>> Sam Ottenhoff <mailto:ottenhoff at longsight.com>
>>>>> July 30, 2014 at 12:11 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       Our users will go nuts (technical term) if they have to manually
>>>>>       translate spaces to %20 in order to save a Web Content link.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What system is providing your users with invalid characters?  How do
>>>>> users arrive at links with spaces?
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> Adam Marshall <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk>
>>>>> July 30, 2014 at 11:55 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> I don’t dispute that URL should not contains spaces but the old Web
>>>>> Content tool did accept them. I would imagine a good solution would be
>>>>> to accept URLs with spaces but translate the space to %20 before
>>>>> storing in the DB. The same goes for other disallowed characters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our users will go nuts (technical term) if they have to manually
>>>>> translate spaces to %20 in order to save a Web Content link.
>>>>>
>>>>> adam
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> ** Note change of email address to adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk
>>>>> <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk> **
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr A C Marshall, WebLearn Service Manager, University of Oxford.
>>>>>
>>>>> IT Services, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford. OX2 6NN.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Sam Ottenhoff [mailto:ottenhoff at longsight.com]
>>>>> *Sent:* 30 July 2014 16:01
>>>>> *To:* Adam Marshall
>>>>> *Cc:* sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Building Sakai] new web content tool error
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't a space invalid in a URL? http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1738.txt
>>>>>
>>>>>      Characters can be unsafe for a number of reasons.  The space
>>>>>      character is unsafe because significant spaces may disappear and
>>>>>      insignificant spaces may be introduced when URLs are transcribed or
>>>>>      typeset or subjected to the treatment of word-processing programs.
>>>>>      The characters "<" and ">" are unsafe because they are used as the
>>>>>      delimiters around URLs in free text; the quote mark (""") is used to
>>>>>      delimit URLs in some systems.  The character "#" is unsafe and should
>>>>>      always be encoded because it is used in World Wide Web and in other
>>>>>      systems to delimit a URL from a fragment/anchor identifier that might
>>>>>      follow it.  The character "%" is unsafe because it is used for
>>>>>      encodings of other characters.  Other characters are unsafe because
>>>>>      gateways and other transport agents are known to sometimes modify
>>>>>      such characters. These characters are "{", "}", "|", "\", "^", "~",
>>>>>      "[", "]", and "`".
>>>>>      All unsafe characters must always be encoded within a URL.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Adam Marshall
>>>>> <adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You can't have a target URL that contains a space in the new Web
>>>>> Content tool.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that deliberate? It's breaking loads of our pages. A blocker.
>>>>>
>>>>> adam
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> ** Note change of email address to adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk
>>>>> <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk> **
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr A C Marshall, WebLearn Service Manager, University of Oxford.
>>>>> IT Services, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford. OX2 6NN.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Sam Ottenhoff <mailto:ottenhoff at longsight.com>
>>>>> July 30, 2014 at 11:00 AM
>>>>> Isn't a space invalid in a URL? http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1738.txt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Characters can be unsafe for a number of reasons. The space
>>>>> character is unsafe because significant spaces may disappear and
>>>>> insignificant spaces may be introduced when URLs are transcribed or
>>>>> typeset or subjected to the treatment of word-processing programs.
>>>>> The characters "<" and ">" are unsafe because they are used as the
>>>>> delimiters around URLs in free text; the quote mark (""") is used to
>>>>> delimit URLs in some systems. The character "#" is unsafe and should
>>>>> always be encoded because it is used in World Wide Web and in other
>>>>> systems to delimit a URL from a fragment/anchor identifier that might
>>>>> follow it. The character "%" is unsafe because it is used for
>>>>> encodings of other characters. Other characters are unsafe because
>>>>> gateways and other transport agents are known to sometimes modify
>>>>> such characters. These characters are "{", "}", "|", "\", "^", "~",
>>>>> "[", "]", and "`".
>>>>>
>>>>> All unsafe characters must always be encoded within a URL.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> Adam Marshall <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk>
>>>>> July 30, 2014 at 10:52 AM
>>>>> You can't have a target URL that contains a space in the new Web
>>>>> Content tool.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that deliberate? It's breaking loads of our pages. A blocker.
>>>>>
>>>>> adam
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> ** Note change of email address to adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk **
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr A C Marshall, WebLearn Service Manager, University of Oxford.
>>>>> IT Services, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford. OX2 6NN.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> --
>>>> Neal Caidin
>>>> Sakai Community Coordinator
>>>> Apereo Foundation
>>>> neal.caidin at apereo.org
>>>> Skype me! (but let me know in advance for the first interaction) - nealkdin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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