[Building Sakai] new web content tool error

Wed Jul 30 09:58:54 PDT 2014

Which is probably what the old web content tool did and what the new web 
content tool should probably do.

---- Cris J H

On 07/30/2014 09:51 AM, Aaron Zeckoski wrote:
> It looks like the actual request that gets sent (from chrome anyway) is this:
> q=sakai%20and%20apereo
> I might be misreading what chrome is doing but that's what it looks
> like from the debug.
> -AZ
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Cris J Holdorph <holdorph at unicon.net> wrote:
>> A "url with spaces" can be reproduced (have not tried using it with the
>> web content tool) by typing into your address bar of your browser.
>>
>> For example if I search for "sakai and apereo" (without quotes) into a
>> google search, I get the following URL:
>>
>> https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=sakai+and+apereo
>>
>> However, I can edit that and replace the value after the 'q' with
>>
>> https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=sakai and apereo
>>
>> and I get the same resulting page.
>>
>> ---- Cris J H
>>
>> On 07/30/2014 09:22 AM, Neal Caidin wrote:
>>> Hi Adam,
>>>
>>> Do you have any specific examples of URLs that have spaces?  We would
>>> need this in order to see if we can reproduce the problem. If we cannot
>>> reproduce it, no way to fix it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Neal
>>>
>>>
>>>> Adam Marshall <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk>
>>>> July 30, 2014 at 12:19 PM
>>>>
>>>> No specific system but I’m sure our users will find one! Either that
>>>> or they’ll type in a URL which contains spaces.
>>>>
>>>> adam
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> ** Note change of email address to adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk
>>>> <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk> **
>>>>
>>>> Dr A C Marshall, WebLearn Service Manager, University of Oxford.
>>>>
>>>> IT Services, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford. OX2 6NN.
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Sam Ottenhoff [mailto:ottenhoff at longsight.com]
>>>> *Sent:* 30 July 2014 17:12
>>>> *To:* Adam Marshall
>>>> *Cc:* sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Building Sakai] new web content tool error
>>>>
>>>> What system is providing your users with invalid characters?  How do
>>>> users arrive at links with spaces?
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> sakai-dev mailing list
>>>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev
>>>>
>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send email to
>>>> sakai-dev-unsubscribe at collab.sakaiproject.org with a subject of
>>>> "unsubscribe"
>>>> Sam Ottenhoff <mailto:ottenhoff at longsight.com>
>>>> July 30, 2014 at 12:11 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      Our users will go nuts (technical term) if they have to manually
>>>>      translate spaces to %20 in order to save a Web Content link.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What system is providing your users with invalid characters?  How do
>>>> users arrive at links with spaces?
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> sakai-dev mailing list
>>>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev
>>>>
>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send email to
>>>> sakai-dev-unsubscribe at collab.sakaiproject.org with a subject of
>>>> "unsubscribe"
>>>> Adam Marshall <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk>
>>>> July 30, 2014 at 11:55 AM
>>>>
>>>> I don’t dispute that URL should not contains spaces but the old Web
>>>> Content tool did accept them. I would imagine a good solution would be
>>>> to accept URLs with spaces but translate the space to %20 before
>>>> storing in the DB. The same goes for other disallowed characters.
>>>>
>>>> Our users will go nuts (technical term) if they have to manually
>>>> translate spaces to %20 in order to save a Web Content link.
>>>>
>>>> adam
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> ** Note change of email address to adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk
>>>> <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk> **
>>>>
>>>> Dr A C Marshall, WebLearn Service Manager, University of Oxford.
>>>>
>>>> IT Services, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford. OX2 6NN.
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Sam Ottenhoff [mailto:ottenhoff at longsight.com]
>>>> *Sent:* 30 July 2014 16:01
>>>> *To:* Adam Marshall
>>>> *Cc:* sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Building Sakai] new web content tool error
>>>>
>>>> Isn't a space invalid in a URL? http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1738.txt
>>>>
>>>>     Characters can be unsafe for a number of reasons.  The space
>>>>     character is unsafe because significant spaces may disappear and
>>>>     insignificant spaces may be introduced when URLs are transcribed or
>>>>     typeset or subjected to the treatment of word-processing programs.
>>>>     The characters "<" and ">" are unsafe because they are used as the
>>>>     delimiters around URLs in free text; the quote mark (""") is used to
>>>>     delimit URLs in some systems.  The character "#" is unsafe and should
>>>>     always be encoded because it is used in World Wide Web and in other
>>>>     systems to delimit a URL from a fragment/anchor identifier that might
>>>>     follow it.  The character "%" is unsafe because it is used for
>>>>     encodings of other characters.  Other characters are unsafe because
>>>>     gateways and other transport agents are known to sometimes modify
>>>>     such characters. These characters are "{", "}", "|", "\", "^", "~",
>>>>     "[", "]", and "`".
>>>>     All unsafe characters must always be encoded within a URL.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Adam Marshall
>>>> <adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You can't have a target URL that contains a space in the new Web
>>>> Content tool.
>>>>
>>>> Is that deliberate? It's breaking loads of our pages. A blocker.
>>>>
>>>> adam
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> ** Note change of email address to adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk
>>>> <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk> **
>>>>
>>>> Dr A C Marshall, WebLearn Service Manager, University of Oxford.
>>>> IT Services, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford. OX2 6NN.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> sakai-dev mailing list
>>>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>> <mailto:sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev
>>>>
>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send email to
>>>> sakai-dev-unsubscribe at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>> <mailto:sakai-dev-unsubscribe at collab.sakaiproject.org> with a subject
>>>> of "unsubscribe"
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> sakai-dev mailing list
>>>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev
>>>>
>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send email to
>>>> sakai-dev-unsubscribe at collab.sakaiproject.org with a subject of
>>>> "unsubscribe"
>>>> Sam Ottenhoff <mailto:ottenhoff at longsight.com>
>>>> July 30, 2014 at 11:00 AM
>>>> Isn't a space invalid in a URL? http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1738.txt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Characters can be unsafe for a number of reasons. The space
>>>> character is unsafe because significant spaces may disappear and
>>>> insignificant spaces may be introduced when URLs are transcribed or
>>>> typeset or subjected to the treatment of word-processing programs.
>>>> The characters "<" and ">" are unsafe because they are used as the
>>>> delimiters around URLs in free text; the quote mark (""") is used to
>>>> delimit URLs in some systems. The character "#" is unsafe and should
>>>> always be encoded because it is used in World Wide Web and in other
>>>> systems to delimit a URL from a fragment/anchor identifier that might
>>>> follow it. The character "%" is unsafe because it is used for
>>>> encodings of other characters. Other characters are unsafe because
>>>> gateways and other transport agents are known to sometimes modify
>>>> such characters. These characters are "{", "}", "|", "\", "^", "~",
>>>> "[", "]", and "`".
>>>>
>>>> All unsafe characters must always be encoded within a URL.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> sakai-dev mailing list
>>>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev
>>>>
>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send email to
>>>> sakai-dev-unsubscribe at collab.sakaiproject.org with a subject of
>>>> "unsubscribe"
>>>> Adam Marshall <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk>
>>>> July 30, 2014 at 10:52 AM
>>>> You can't have a target URL that contains a space in the new Web
>>>> Content tool.
>>>>
>>>> Is that deliberate? It's breaking loads of our pages. A blocker.
>>>>
>>>> adam
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> ** Note change of email address to adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk **
>>>>
>>>> Dr A C Marshall, WebLearn Service Manager, University of Oxford.
>>>> IT Services, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford. OX2 6NN.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> sakai-dev mailing list
>>>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev
>>>>
>>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send email to
>>>> sakai-dev-unsubscribe at collab.sakaiproject.org with a subject of
>>>> "unsubscribe"
>>>
>>> --
>>> Neal Caidin
>>> Sakai Community Coordinator
>>> Apereo Foundation
>>> neal.caidin at apereo.org
>>> Skype me! (but let me know in advance for the first interaction) - nealkdin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sakai-dev mailing list
>>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev
>>>
>>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send email to sakai-dev-unsubscribe at collab.sakaiproject.org with a subject of "unsubscribe"
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sakai-dev mailing list
>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev
>>
>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send email to sakai-dev-unsubscribe at collab.sakaiproject.org with a subject of "unsubscribe"
>
>
>