[Building Sakai] Sakai Presentation layer

[Hedrick Charles]

The advantage of pure JSP is that you can do anything you need to do. I found in JSF I’m too often fighting the framework. With RSF that is rare. The big problem I have is that it’s really not being supported anymore. Documentation is sketchy. If I were doing Lessons again I’d probably do it with JSP, though it’s pretty clear that I would have had to do more work that way.

On Feb 11, 2014, at 5:10:01 PM, Cris J Holdorph <holdorph at unicon.net> wrote:

> I develop all my Sakai tools using Spring MVC and JSP as the templating 
> layer.  These tools are client specific and do not exist in the generic 
> Sakai codebase.  However, there is a tool developed by other Unicon 
> employees including Aaron Zeckoski and Bob Long based on Kaltura 
> integration that is an example Spring MVC/JSP tool.
> 
> I can not compare the experience of Spring MVC to Wicket.  I know I 
> absolutely hated JSF and RSF.  Wicket felt like yet another component 
> technology even if it was better, the component technology was part of 
> what I didn't like about JSF and RSF, so I did not ever pursue trying to 
> create a tool using it.
> 
> While there may not be any tools listed on that page, there are 
> definitely a lot of Sakai tools written in JSF.  It's not a technology I 
> would recommend, but rest assured it's in heavy use.
> 
> ---- Cris J H
> 
> On 02/11/2014 03:01 PM, Jaco Gillman wrote:
>> Hi all
>> 
>> After many hours of struggling to make a new Sakai tool work like I
>> expected inside the Sakai framework, I went back to the Sakai
>> documentation and came across the different Presentation Layers
>> (https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/BOOT/Presentation+Layer)
>> 
>> Java Server Pages (JSP)
>> 
>>  - no documentaion, and no current Sakai tools listed here
>> 
>> Java Server Faces (JSF)
>> 
>>  - documentaion found, but no current Sakai tools listed here
>> 
>> Reasonable Server Faces (RSF)
>> 
>>  - documentaion found, Sakai tools listed here
>> 
>> Apache Wicket (Wicket)
>> 
>>  - documentaion found, Sakai tools listed here
>> 
>> I then found a page where these technologies are compared:
>> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/BOOT/Comparing+Sakai+Display+Technologies
>> 
>> *_The following stood out from the list:_*
>> 
>> *JSP - /No real integration with Sakai other than the fact that it is
>> functional/*
>> 
>> 
>>        JSF - Integration with Sakai - /Has widgets and best integration
>>        with Sakai (currently) that is being kept up to date/
>> 
>> 
>>        RSF - Integration with Sakai - /Current average but improving
>>        rapidly, new widgets being developed/
>> 
>> 
>>        Wicket - Integration with Sakai - /Excellent, see the existing
>>        tools for the minimal setup required/
>> 
>> Wicket and JSF seems to be the better options.  How relevant are these
>> today? Is there still no real *JSP* integration with *Sakai*? I guess my
>> question is, for someone that has little to no experience on all except
>> JSP, which Presentation layer option would be a better choice for
>> creating new tools in Sakai?
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> *Jaco Gillman***
>> 
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