[Building Sakai] Change the Sakai CLE release date policy ?

Neal Caidin neal.caidin at apereo.org
Thu Aug 7 06:38:25 PDT 2014


Sure, good idea. I'll look into it.

Fwiw, there is some marketing effort happening, including really nice 
collaboration from the commercial affiliates. We will have a great 
banner at Educause!

- Neal


> Kirschner, Beth <mailto:bkirschn at umich.edu>
> August 7, 2014 at 9:26 AM
> While this is all good and true, I think we could do a better job of 
> promoting ourselves. Neal, I wonder if there's a place for all this 
> information on the sakaiproject.org website?
>
> Beth
>
>
> Earle Nietzel <mailto:enietzel at anisakai.com>
> August 6, 2014 at 2:41 PM
> Would like to also add some comments to this thread, specifically on 
> the points mentioned at:
>
> Why are we moving away from Sakai?
>
> *Accessibility*
> *Tool integration* (claims: Sakai’s LTI is limited, at best)
> *Frequency of Updates* (claims: Sakai has not had significant updates 
> in years)
> *Mobile Strategy* (claims: Sakai does not have a mobile strategy to 
> speak of)
> We all need to make decisions and I feel that the blog post mentioned 
> in this email thread is an attempt to justify their decision for 
> moving to another LMS other than Sakai. Most of the information in 
> that blog supports that organizations intentions, and are not factual 
> as have been refuted above.
>
> Sincerely,
> Earle Nietzel
> Member of the Sakai Community / Asahi Net Int
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> earle,
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> yleny at laposte.net <mailto:yleny at laposte.net>
> August 6, 2014 at 11:36 AM
>
> Hello,
>
> Maybe Sakai CLE developpers need to change the release date policy 
> because of this example :
> I found this blog post when I made research about Sakai CLE and I 
> think that Sakai CLE developpers need to read it to improve Sakai CLE 
> for a better LMS for the users.
>
> The LMS Transition Initiative
> http://wheel.ucdavis.edu/lms/
> extract :
> "Frequency of Updates. Sakai has not had significant updates in years 
> (only bug fixes), and the fixes that do occur are annual, which is not 
> frequently enough. The LMS candidates that we are investigating update 
> tools, add functionality, and address bugs much more frequently."
>
> When you take a look at all official releases of Sakai CLE web page 
> (that I have created), grouped by branch in reverse chronological order:
> Sakai Release Date list
> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/DOC/Sakai+Release+Date+list
> you can see that users neeed to wait 3 months for a minor release 
> (2.9.x) and 10 months between a major release (from 2.9.3 to 2.10.0) 
> and  it's only 2 months between a minor release for Moodle.
> All official releases of Moodle, grouped by branch in reverse 
> chronological order:
> http://docs.moodle.org/dev/Releases
>
> For the to support policy, you can compare these two tables :
> For Moodle  :
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moodle#Releases
> and
> for Sakai CLE
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakai_CLE#Releases
>
> Is it possible to have a minor release every two months to fix the 
> bugs, to have minor improvements and to have the latest translations ?
>
> Best regards
>
> Yannick
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Apereo Foundation
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