[Building Sakai] Edia skin manager for Sakai 10 (license incompatibility)

[John Bush]

Two thoughts.

1.  I bet they'd consider changing the license if we asked them.
Almost everytime I've asked someone they done it for me.

2.  IMHO, one criteria needs to be does the tool operate in a cluster
ok.   In this case the answer is no, unless there have been changes
since I last looked.  The skin manager uploads files on to the one
node you work with.

Of course we have made mods to make move the skin manager data into
the db and propagate it around the cluster, we'd be happy to
contribute that work, so number two shouldn't really hold things up.



On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Anthony Whyte <arwhyte at umich.edu> wrote:
> Right Mark, thanks for the clarification.  I missed the "lesser" in the
> license.
>
> anthony whyte | its and mlibrary | university of michigan |
> arwhyte at umich.edu | 517-980-0228
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:49 PM, Mark J. Norton wrote:
>
> Actually, it's LGPL, which isn't nearly as restrictive as the GPL.  I
> believe Sakai is using some packages that are LGPL.
>
> - Mark Norton
>
> On 11/14/2013 8:29 PM, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>
> Edia's skin manager has been suggested for inclusion in Sakai 10.  The code
> is licensed GPL and as such cannot be included in a Sakai distribution due
> to it's strong copy-left provisions.  However excellent the tool may be, the
> suggestion of inclusion is a non-starter given its current license.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anthony
>
>
> https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/edia/skin-manager/trunk/api/src/java/nl/edia/sakai/tool/skinmanager/SkinService.java
>
> /*
>  * Edia Project edia-sakai-skin-manager
>  * Copyright (C) 2007 Roland, Edia Educatie Technologie
>  *
>  * This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
>  * modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
>  * License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either
>  * version 2.1 of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
>  *
>  * This library is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
>  * but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
>  * MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU
>  * Lesser General Public License for more details.
>  *
>  * You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General Public
>  * License along with this library; if not, write to the Free Software
>  * Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA  02110-1301
> USA
>  */
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Steve Swinsburg <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>
> Date: November 14, 2013 5:38:36 PM EST
> To: Mark Breuker <mbreuker at loi.nl>
> Cc: sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org, Sakai QA
> <sakai-qa at collab.sakaiproject.org>, Anthony Whyte <arwhyte at umich.edu>,
> Adrian Fish <adrian.r.fish at gmail.com>,
> "cle-release-team at collab.sakaiproject.org"
> <cle-release-team at collab.sakaiproject.org>, Developers Sakai-Dev
> <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
> Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] [WG: Sakai QA] [cle-release-team] Proposal:
> towards a releasable trunk for Sakai 10 (and beyond)
>
> Mark can you work that up into a proposal for inclusion and send it out?
> Include some background and maybe ask around the lists for some people that
> are running it in production. Then we can discuss it in a thread of its own
> and get it voted on.
>
> Cheers
> Steve
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: "Berg, Alan" <A.M.Berg at uva.nl>
> Date: November 14, 2013 4:03:20 PM EST
> To: Mark Breuker <mbreuker at loi.nl>
> Cc: Anthony Whyte <arwhyte at umich.edu>, Adrian Fish
> <adrian.r.fish at gmail.com>, Sakai QA <sakai-qa at collab.sakaiproject.org>,
> "sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org" <sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org>,
> Developers Sakai-Dev <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>,
> "cle-release-team at collab.sakaiproject.org"
> <cle-release-team at collab.sakaiproject.org>
> Subject: Re: [sakai-pmc] [Building Sakai] [WG: Sakai QA] [cle-release-team]
> Proposal: towards a releasable trunk for Sakai 10 (and beyond)
>
> Another excellent EDIA tool, used by many institutions.
> Don't mind QAing if it gets included
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Mark Breuker <mbreuker at loi.nl>
> Date: November 14, 2013 3:43:29 PM EST
> To: 'Anthony Whyte' <arwhyte at umich.edu>, Adrian Fish
> <adrian.r.fish at gmail.com>
> Cc: Sakai QA <sakai-qa at collab.sakaiproject.org>,
> "sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org" <sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org>,
> Developers Sakai-Dev <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>,
> "cle-release-team at collab.sakaiproject.org"
> <cle-release-team at collab.sakaiproject.org>
> Subject: RE: [Building Sakai] [WG: Sakai QA] [cle-release-team] Proposal:
> towards a releasable trunk for Sakai 10 (and beyond)
>
> Hi all,
>
> May I suggest to include the Skin Manager tool in the main distribution? It
> has been around for quite some time and makes it much easier to deploy new
> skins into a running Sakai instance.
>
> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/SM/Home
>
> Also I think there are quite some institutions running this tool although I
> don't have any hard evidence. Perhaps people using it can reply to this
> message ("Say aaai!" :).
>
> The latest version is compatible with Sakai 2.9.x I would be willing to put
> some effort in making it compatible with Sakai 10.
>
> BTW: what are the criteria for inclusion?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
>
> anthony whyte | its and mlibrary | university of michigan |
> arwhyte at umich.edu | 517-980-0228
>
>
>
>
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