[Building Sakai] Fwd: availability setting on forums problem

Bryan Holladay holladay at longsight.com
Fri Jun 14 05:26:32 PDT 2013


I haven't looked at the announcements code for a while, but if it uses the
SchedulerInvocationManager, then it will be connected to the same 10 min
interval.  It could have been a timing thing, i.e., announcement was
created in the future (future announcements only btw) and that time was
closer to the 10 min interval than your Forums time (i.e. intervals 10:00,
10:10, 10:20, 10:30..., and announcement set to go out at 10:09 while
forums set to open at 10:11).  In that case, announcements will only have
to wait 1 min while forums would have to wait 9 mins.  If you are seeing
anything going beyond the 10 min mark, then there is a bug, otherwise, it's
by design.  You don't want to overload the server checking too often.
 However, 10 mins seems high, you would probably be safe with 5 mins, which
you can set via the sakai.properties.

Thanks,
Bryan


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Sanghyun Jeon <euksa99 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you for your reply :)
> No the max delay is 10 minutes, which our job scheduler time interval.
> Do you mean it is an intended behavior?
>
> I think Announcement uses the same SchedulerInvocationManager, but it does
> not suffer from any delay notification...
> If I am wrong, please let me know.
>
> S
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 5:37 AM, Bryan Holladay <holladay at longsight.com>wrote:
>
>> FYI, I'm one of the msgcntr leads and I'm not even on
>> Sakai-msgcntr-team at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>
>> You are correct that it uses the SchedulerInvocationManager, which uses a
>> sakai property to check for new jobs to run every X seconds.  When you say
>> "noticeable delay", are you saying it takes longer than your 10 mins you
>> set?  I haven't seen a case where it takes longer than the set delay.
>>
>> -Bryan
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Sanghyun Jeon <euksa99 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I did not receive any reply from
>>> Sakai-msgcntr-team at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>> so I send the same email again and I hope somebody helps us :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> We are using Sakai 2.8.x_all (msgcntr 2.8.4-SNAPSHOT and its parent is
>>> sakai-edu-tool 2.8.6) and we are delighted having new availability setting
>>> on Forums. However, we are currently experiencing that availability setting
>>> on Forums does seems to work but with a noticeable delay. The max delay
>>> time is 10 minutes, which we found that it is the same as
>>> SchedulerInvocationMangerImpl time interval (10 min). Delayed email
>>> notification feature on Announcement tool ( seems to me) uses the same
>>> SchedulerInvocationManagerImpl but we don't have any problem like this time
>>> delay on the Announcement tool.
>>>
>>> I am wondering whether there is any other school having the same
>>> experience and if so, I wish they can tell us how to fix this problem.
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance.
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>>
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