[Building Sakai] NeoChat for production use?

Neal Caidin nealcaidin at sakaifoundation.org
Tue Feb 19 04:46:42 PST 2013


For the documentation, how about something like:

"NeoChat - experimental feature - performance concerns exist for large installations. Guidelines - if deploying NeoChat it is recommended to deploy one app node per 250 concurrent sessions.  While no issues have been found in performance tests to date, Neochat increases the number of requests sent to Sakai, so monitor your system closely. "

?

-- Neal


On Feb 19, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Adrian Fish <adrian.r.fish at gmail.com> wrote:

> How many concurrent users? Each logged in user on a neochat enabled Sakai will be polling every 5 seconds. The requests don't take long, but still. If you expect 500 concurrent users you should probably cluster with 250 on each of two app nodes. I don't see any problem with those load levels.
> 
> The only way to decrease the hit on the tomcats would be to start using websockets so the polling can be dropped. I don't think enough people are using websocket enabled browers yet for that to be feasible. You could increase the poll interval but this reduces the immediacy of the chat experience, thus defeating the object really.
> 
> Adrian.
> 
> 
> On 19 February 2013 12:08, Alexandre Ballesté <alexandre.balleste at udl.cat> wrote:
> Did anybody try with big site? 5000+ users.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> On 02/19/2013 01:05 PM, Juan José Meroño Sánchez wrote:
> > I did some performance testing on it for 2.9.0 and I didn't find issues,
> > I think the confluence page needs qualifying too, but not completely
> > remove the warning.
> > This feature (neochat) increases the number of requests sent to sakai,
> > so this needs a warning, but not a fatal message that will scare people.
> > Its also important to have people using the feature.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > El 19/02/2013 11:50, Pablo San Roman Bengoetxea escribió:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> We are interested in NeoChat but we have seen in the document of new
> >> funcionalities (
> >> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/DOC/Sakai+CLE+2.9+Release+Notes+-+What%27s+New
> >> ) that it is not recommended for production, only for small scale
> >> exploration. We are not sure if this state continues so we would like to
> >> know if somebody is currently  using NeoChat in production.
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> Regards.
> >>
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