[Building Sakai] Windows 7 64bit and Sakai 2.9.2 WebDav
Mike Jennings
mike_jennings at unc.edu
Mon Aug 12 08:58:37 PDT 2013
I also have a Windows 7 32bit version that I am going to install and
setup on a virtual machine to use for testing, to see if this issue is
isolated to just the 64bit version of Windows or not.
I also have the resources to get Vista and Windows 8 if people would
think that would be a good route to take for testing the WebDav
functionality.
Mike
On 08/12/2013 11:55 AM, Mike Jennings wrote:
> Sam,
>
> This is failing on our Sakai 2.9.2 production instance with Windows 7
> 64bit. I just reverted the SAK-19592 patch, and now Windows 7 64bit is
> working just fine. The only issue is that it is slow to upload
> documents, but that seems to be a Windows issue not a webdav issue.
>
> Thanks to everyone with all of your assistance with this issue and
> pointing me in the right direction.
>
> Please let me know if there is anything that I can do to help with this
> issue, like testing, coding, ect.
>
>
> Mike J
>
>
> On 08/12/2013 11:44 AM, Sam Ottenhoff wrote:
>> Chuck,
>>
>> Are you running with SAK-19592 in production? Any thoughts on it? It
>> is included in Sakai 2.9.2+.
>>
>> --Sam
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Charles Hedrick <hedrick at rutgers.edu
>> <mailto:hedrick at rutgers.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> In the past i've fixed problems that come up in Windows and Mac
>> native clients. So far Mac problems have always been fixable.
>> Windows have not; their client is notorious. But in Windows 7 and
>> later it seems to be supportable.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org
>> <mailto:neal.caidin at apereo.org>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I cannot say for certain how much it will help your specific issue
>>> (but I have my fingers crossed). I don't know the differences at a
>>> technical/code level so I don't have a way to assess.
>>>
>>> Because we've known that WebDav has had issues over time, our QA
>>> testing has accepted tests using CyberDuck and AnyClient. These
>>> two tools seem reliable and consistent, which is more than we've
>>> seen at the OS level. Possibly we could explicitly ask testers to
>>> test natively on Mac and Windows, in addition to CyberDuke and
>>> AnyClient (or other WebDav clients) just so that we know what the
>>> baseline behavior is (or at least as best as we can know).
>>>
>>> Suggestions welcome (or +1 if you think we need a more extensive
>>> set of environments / tools on which WebDav is tested).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Neal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Neal Caidin
>>> Sakai CLE Community Coordinator
>>> neal.caidin at apereo.org <mailto:neal.caidin at apereo.org>
>>> Skype: nealkdin
>>> Twitter: ncaidin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Mike Jennings <mike_jennings at unc.edu
>>> <mailto:mike_jennings at unc.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Neal,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the information.
>>>>
>>>> I am going to try and role back this patch and see if things get
>>>> better in my tests.
>>>>
>>>> I also wonder if I could just use the dav code from the cle 2.9.3
>>>> tag in 2.9.2, if that is all tested and working better.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> On 08/12/2013 07:38 AM, Neal Caidin wrote:
>>>>> Aren't there a patch or two for WebDav which are reverted for
>>>>> CLE 2.9.3
>>>>> [currently at RC03 level] ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-19592 one of them?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Neal
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Neal Caidin
>>>>> Sakai CLE Community Coordinator
>>>>> neal.caidin at apereo.org <mailto:neal.caidin at apereo.org>
>>>>> <mailto:neal.caidin at apereo.org>
>>>>> Skype: nealkdin
>>>>> Twitter: ncaidin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 10, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Matthew Jones
>>>>> <matthew at longsight.com <mailto:matthew at longsight.com>
>>>>> <mailto:matthew at longsight.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree, while Windows 7 (and other versions of Windows) have
>>>>>> always
>>>>>> had *some* issues with Sakai dav (mostly because we aren't
>>>>>> implementing all the property retrievals it wants) basic
>>>>>> operations
>>>>>> seemed to work. We'd usually still recommend a client like
>>>>>> Cyberduck
>>>>>> that worked 100% of the time, but I can see the usefulness of
>>>>>> mapping
>>>>>> a drive and not spending the money for a more reliable client like
>>>>>> WebDrive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In any case, the comment I just noticed in SAK-19592 in 2.9.2 would
>>>>>> lead me to believe that this is what is causing this recent
>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-19592?focusedCommentId=178333&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-178333
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, webdav is soooo slow on Windows 7. This is a client side
>>>>>> problem
>>>>>> (it looks like it keeps trying to detect a proxy?) and the fix
>>>>>> is here:
>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2445570
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Removing this patch and applying the client side fix actually
>>>>>> make the
>>>>>> Windows 7 dav not super bad. Though when I upload it doesn't
>>>>>> seem to
>>>>>> refresh the window. The file uploads successfully but I have to
>>>>>> manually refresh to see it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Thomas Lampert
>>>>>> <Thomas.Lampert at mci.edu <mailto:Thomas.Lampert at mci.edu>
>>>>>> <mailto:Thomas.Lampert at mci.edu
>>>>>> <mailto:Thomas.Lampert at mci.edu>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We got exactly the same problem. Downloading works fine,
>>>>>> uploading
>>>>>> even the tiniest file gives the "too large" error.
>>>>>> So far, we havent found anything that could possibly help so we
>>>>>> told our Win7-users to work with a Windows WebDAV-Client
>>>>>> instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> <mailto:sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>>>> <mailto:sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>>] Im Auftrag von
>>>>>> Mike Jennings
>>>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 09. August 2013 22:48
>>>>>> An: dev sakai
>>>>>> Betreff: [Building Sakai] Windows 7 64bit and Sakai 2.9.2 WebDav
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have just upgraded from Sakai 2.8.1 to 2.9.2 and after the
>>>>>> upgrade anyone who was mapping a windows folder to a sakai
>>>>>> webdav
>>>>>> site is having issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently the users can authenticate just fine, but when
>>>>>> they try
>>>>>> to upload any file, or even create a new folder you get a error
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the file '***' is too large
>>>>>>
>>>>>> or in the case of creating a new folder you get
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the file '<%1 NULL:NameDest>' is too large
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have no issues using Mac, Linux, or a Windows Client like
>>>>>> Cyberduck or even Windows XP, but the native WebFolders in
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>> 7 don't work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am able to rename files and delete files, but that seems to be
>>>>>> about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone else had any issues with Windows 7 and WebDav
>>>>>> Folders?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> Mike Jennings
>>>>>> Teaching and Learning Developer
>>>>>> T: 919.843.5013 <tel:919.843.5013>
>>>>>> E: mike_jennings at unc.edu <mailto:mike_jennings at unc.edu>
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>>>> T: 919.843.5013
>>>> E: mike_jennings at unc.edu <mailto:mike_jennings at unc.edu>
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