[Building Sakai] Windows 7 64bit and Sakai 2.9.2 WebDav

Sam Ottenhoff ottenhoff at longsight.com
Mon Aug 12 08:44:37 PDT 2013


Chuck,

Are you running with SAK-19592 in production?  Any thoughts on it?  It is
included in Sakai 2.9.2+.

--Sam


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Charles Hedrick <hedrick at rutgers.edu>wrote:

> In the past i've fixed problems that come up in Windows and Mac native
> clients. So far Mac problems have always been fixable. Windows have not;
> their client is notorious. But in Windows 7 and later it seems to be
> supportable.
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> On Aug 12, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org> wrote:
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> Hi Mike,
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> I cannot say for certain how much it will help your specific issue (but I
> have my fingers crossed). I don't know the differences at a technical/code
> level so I don't have a way to assess.
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> Because we've known that WebDav has had issues over time, our QA testing
> has accepted tests using CyberDuck and AnyClient. These two tools seem
> reliable and consistent, which is more than we've seen at the OS
> level. Possibly we could explicitly ask testers to test natively on Mac and
> Windows, in addition to CyberDuke and AnyClient (or other WebDav clients)
> just so that we know what the baseline behavior is (or at least as best as
> we can know).
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> Suggestions welcome (or +1 if you think we need a more extensive set of
> environments / tools on which WebDav is tested).
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> Thanks,
> Neal
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> Neal Caidin
> Sakai CLE Community Coordinator
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> On Aug 12, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Mike Jennings <mike_jennings at unc.edu> wrote:
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> Neal,
>
> Thanks for the information.
>
> I am going to try and role back this patch and see if things get better in
> my tests.
>
> I also wonder if I could just use the dav code from the cle 2.9.3 tag in
> 2.9.2, if that is all tested and working better.
>
> Mike
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> On 08/12/2013 07:38 AM, Neal Caidin wrote:
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> Aren't there a patch or two for WebDav which are reverted for CLE 2.9.3
> [currently at RC03 level] ?
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> Is https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-19592 one of them?
>
> Cheers,
> Neal
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> Neal Caidin
> Sakai CLE Community Coordinator
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> Twitter: ncaidin
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> On Aug 10, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Matthew Jones <matthew at longsight.com
> <mailto:matthew at longsight.com <matthew at longsight.com>>> wrote:
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> I agree, while Windows 7 (and other versions of Windows) have always
> had *some* issues with Sakai dav (mostly because we aren't
> implementing all the property retrievals it wants)  basic operations
> seemed to work. We'd usually still recommend a client like Cyberduck
> that worked 100% of the time, but I can see the usefulness of mapping
> a drive and not spending the money for a more reliable client like
> WebDrive.
>
> In any case, the comment I just noticed in SAK-19592 in 2.9.2 would
> lead me to believe that this is what is causing this recent problem.
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> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-19592?focusedCommentId=178333&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-178333
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> Also, webdav is soooo slow on Windows 7. This is a client side problem
> (it looks like it keeps trying to detect a proxy?) and the fix is here:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2445570
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> Removing this patch and applying the client side fix actually make the
> Windows 7 dav not super bad. Though when I upload it doesn't seem to
> refresh the window. The file uploads successfully but I have to
> manually refresh to see it.
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> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Thomas Lampert
> <Thomas.Lampert at mci.edu <mailto:Thomas.Lampert at mci.edu>> wrote:
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>    We got exactly the same problem. Downloading works fine, uploading
>    even the tiniest file gives the "too large" error.
>    So far, we havent found anything that could possibly help so we
>    told our Win7-users to work with a Windows WebDAV-Client instead.
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>    Betreff: [Building Sakai] Windows 7 64bit and Sakai 2.9.2 WebDav
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>    We have just upgraded from Sakai 2.8.1 to 2.9.2 and after the
>    upgrade anyone who was mapping a windows folder to a sakai webdav
>    site is having issues.
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>    Currently the users can authenticate just fine, but when they try
>    to upload any file, or even create a new folder you get a error
>
>      the file '***' is too large
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>    or in the case of creating a new folder you get
>
>      the file '<%1 NULL:NameDest>' is too large
>
>    We have no issues using Mac, Linux, or a Windows Client like
>    Cyberduck or even Windows XP, but the native WebFolders in Windows
>    7 don't work.
>
>    I am able to rename files and delete files, but that seems to be
>    about it.
>
>    Has anyone else had any issues with Windows 7 and WebDav Folders?
>
>    Thanks,
>
>    Mike
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