[Building Sakai] Proposed changes to Site Info Tool Selection Page (SAK-16600)

Mon Oct 22 16:38:22 PDT 2012

For 2.10, we (Dr. Chuck and I) were thinking of just making the side menu
collapsed by default and having the top bar sticky (floating down the page
with content). People seem to prefer this nowadays anyway. [1]

This menu would want to be tool ordered still though I'd probably make it a
2 level navigation so if you clicked
- <Site>
  - <Tool Group 1>
    - <Tools>
  - <Tool Group 2>
     - <Tools>

In either case the same issue would remain whether or not this was
implemented.

It doesn't sound from the writeup that they will be in entirely in
sakai.properties, but there will have to be new methods in the kernel to
generate the list for site management, so a new jira sounds like a good
idea for someone else to work on whatever happens for 2.10.

[1]
http://uxdesign.smashingmagazine.com/2012/09/11/sticky-menus-are-quicker-to-navigate/

On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Steve Swinsburg
<steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>wrote:

> Will the tool groupings in Site Info be made configurable via
> sakai.properties or similar? If so, the mod to the portal should be a
> trivial extension. Not saying it should be within the project, but a
> logical extension after the Site Info work is complete, that can be Jira'd
> and taken on by someone else perhaps.
>
> cheers,
> Steve
>
>
> On 23/10/2012, at 6:25 AM, Beth Kirschner <bkirschn at umich.edu> wrote:
>
> > Hi Keli,
> >
> >  Regarding adding the new tool groupings to the left menu, we also like
> this idea, but it's currently out of scope for this project.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > - Beth
> >
> > On Oct 22, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Keli Sato Amann wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> I apologize for the late response, was out Thurs and Friday.
> >> I love the idea of grouping the tools, instead of displaying them
> alphabetically; it's going to help our users. But it would be great if we
> could have those categories expanded (so +1 on that idea). When we
> suggested using the accordion pattern for Samigo settings, it was because
> the settings are 7 page heights long. But regarding Site info, we only have
> 12 tools that we make available by default so they all fit on the same page
> (our descriptions are on the same line as the tool name which also keeps
> the page compact). We'll probably add up to 4-5 tools in the future, so the
> ability to group and possibly collapse them would be useful, but even then,
> it would probably fit on one screen. If all were collapsed by default,
>  expanding all sections would entail 3-4 more clicks every time.
> >>
> >> And thanks for your response to Adam re choosing own headings. Could
> those headings possibly appear in the left menu of the site, so the tools
> are grouped that way in the navigation? Although even as I say that, that
> requires some thought because instructors and students think of some tools
> differently: Calendar might be management for instructors but information
> for students, and wiki could fit into multiple categories, as Adam's
> diagram alludes to.
> >>
> >> We would probably add a handful more tools over the next year, but
> roughly, we might configure it to look something like the attached
> (categories are off top of head, main point is just to show how they all
> fit on one page).
> >>
> >> Keli
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Beth Kirschner" <bkirschn at umich.edu>
> >> To: "sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org sakai" <
> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 6:03:54 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Proposed changes to Site Info Tool
> Selection   Page (SAK-16600)
> >>
> >> Thanks for everyones comments! I've aggregated several questions &
> comments below.
> >>
> >> - Beth
> >>
> >> On Oct 17, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Adam Marshall wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have three thoughts, which is two more than usual.
> >>>
> >>> 1/ It would be good to have a system-wide property that forced the
> accordion to be displayed fully opened up. I like the idea of headings but
> I'm not sure our staff would know which section a tool is situated within.
> They'd get annoyed opening each one up to search.
> >>>
> >> Seems like a popular idea -- I'll ask Gonzalo if this is easy to do.
> >>
> >>> 2/ Comment in Aug 2012 " Only one instance of one type of BasicLTI
> tool is supported in one site. " is this still true? Unless I'm
> misunderstanding this seems like a very annoying restriction
> >>>
> >> This doesn't appear to be true (I was able to add multiple instances).
> >>
> >>> 3/ we use a different classification to categorise our tools, we have
> 5 areas and have already mapped our tools to these area in a lovely
> diagram: http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/weblearn/images/pentagon_new1.jpg  We
> would want to redefine the categories that you have listed. Is this
> possible? (We will also change the colours of the headings, do they each
> have their own class/id?)
> >>>
> >> Definitely configurable, and the classifications can be completely
> turned off as well.
> >>
> >> On Oct 17, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Steve Swinsburg wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Beth,
> >>>
> >>> Looks good. Will the relevant sections be expanded by default if there
> are tools configured within them?
> >>>
> >> Our initial thinking is to expand only the "core" group, but we'll look
> into optionally expanding all by default.
> >>
> >> On Oct 17, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Bryan Holladay wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1 I think this looks good... as for the accordion question, there is
> >>> probably a skilled enough developer out there that could figure out
> >>> how to add an expand all feature to the accordion library.  Also, this
> >>> category feature would be a step towards categorizing the tool menu on
> >>> the left hand side (which the xsl portal can do, but not in 2.9.x+).
> >>
> >>
> >> We had thought about the left tool menu as well, but for now feel that
> it's out of scope.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On 17/10/2012, at 5:21 AM, Beth Kirschner <bkirschn at umich.edu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Michigan is proposing changes to the Site Info (aka Worksite Setup)
> Tool Selection page, to group tools to address several concerns:
> >>>>
> >>>> * The tool list for courses/projects is already long and growing
> >>>> * The addition of Basic LTI tools to this list will make this list
> even longer and more unmanageable for users (
> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22108)
> >>>>
> >>>> We feel that adding configurable "groups" will help users visually
> select the correct tools for their site. We'd also like to provide optional
> screenshots of the the tools ("more") to help users with tool selection.
> >>>>
> >>>> See the following screenshot for the new proposed layout:
> >>>>
> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/secure/attachment/34127/Screen%20Shot%202012-10-08%20at%204.28.04%20PM.png
> >>>>
> >>>> In order to implement this, we're proposing optional additions to the
> toolOrder.xml file to define these new groupings. These groupings only
> impact the Site Info Tool Selection page.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please let us know your thoughts!
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> - Beth
> >>>>
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