[Building Sakai] LTI ease of use

[Neal Caidin]

+1 . The concept of LTI tools being exposed in Sakai sites after they are configured, as the tools that they represent, sounds great, though I'm not sure if it is important to visually separate as "External Tools".  In my experience, users don't care if a tool is internal or external, local or hosted. They mostly care that the tool works and with implicit assumptions that their data is safe and backed up, and the the tool and information are secure.  2 pennies.

It does matter, of course, to support folks, system admins, and others who maintain systems to know which are external vs internal.

-- Neal

On Nov 20, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Adam Marshall <adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

> Ah I wondered what you were on about!
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> What a good idea.
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> adam
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> From: Adrian Fish [mailto:adrian.r.fish at gmail.com] 
> Sent: 20 November 2012 13:53
> To: Adam Marshall
> Cc: sakai-dev
> Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] LTI ease of use
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> That's what I meant. Sakai admins precan the LTI tool and site maintainers can just add them as any other tool, with no config whatsoever. Maybe they shouldn't even know that it is an external tool they are adding. That's the way Lessons does it, although they are still called External tools in the more tools dropdown.
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> Cheers,
> Adrian.
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> 
> On 20 November 2012 12:34, Adam Marshall <adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> One problem with allow user full control over setting up LTI ‘tools’ is that they may link to unscrupulous systems that do nasty things with the information that they are handed. We have taken the opinion that it is a necessary evil for us admins to set up the LTI tool instances so we can do basic vetting.
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> We don’t really have any set rules about how to decide whether a target LTI-enable application is trustworthy or not, a basic google search is about as probing as we get, but we are aware that there is a potential issue in this area.
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> adam
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> From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Fish
> Sent: 20 November 2012 11:45
> To: sakai-dev
> Subject: [Building Sakai] LTI ease of use
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> Is there a way of showing the configured LTI tools in the Site Info tool list, under the configured name? For instance, Panopto as 'Lecture Videos'?
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> I know you view lti tools by configured name in Lessons but it would be good to just be able to add it as any other tool with zero configuration. The way the consumer currently works is the same as core Moodle's, unless I'm barking up the wrong tree, and will eventually just generate lots of load on Sakai admins as they add Basic LTI tools to sites. Basiclti4moodle makes things a lot easier as staff can just pick the activity as any other.
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> I can imagine this being a fair bit of work but it needs to happen if Sakai's going to be a serious consumer of LTI providers.
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> Am I missing something?
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> Cheers,
> Adrian.
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