[Building Sakai] Assessment Migration from Bb (WebCT) CE8 to Samigo

Shoji Kajita kajita at nagoya-u.jp
Thu Jul 26 07:37:36 PDT 2012


Mike,

Thank you for your offering.

Unfortunately, WebCT CE8 doesn't have a functionality to export
courses like Bb 6 as far as I learned from our local WebCT rep in
Japan.

Nate is also suggesting that WebCT CE8 is less open to parsing (eg,
using bfree).

So, I haven't tried bFree so far.

Shoji at Kyoto

At Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:18:50 -0400,
Mike Jennings wrote:
> 
> Shoji,
> 
> Did you happen to try the bFree application to see if it will process a 
> extract file for you.  If so I have the code I can give you and you can 
> modify it to try and process the Test and Quizes for you.
> 
> You can get the source code here at
> 
> http://code.google.com/p/bfree/
> 
> Mike
> 
> =============================================================================
> Mike Jennings
> Teaching and Learning Developer
> University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
> 
> Office: (919) 843-5013
> Cell: (919) 698-3746
> E-mail: mike_jennings at unc.edu
> 
> On 7/26/2012 10:11 AM, Shoji Kajita wrote:
> > Hi Mike, Nguni and Nate,
> >
> > Thank you for your additional comments for the use of Respondus.
> >
> > I had tried but unfortunately Respondus itself didn't work for
> > Japanese tests and quizzes. Respondus is NOT UTF-8 transparent so that
> > Japanese characters are squished like the attached screenshot.
> >
> > I think that it is time to enjoy the XML hell to translate IMS QTI
> > files exported from WebCT CE8 in order to import them by using Samigo
> > importer.
> >
> > Shoji
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:43:35 -0400,
> > Mike Jennings wrote:
> >>
> >> Shoji,
> >>
> >> Currently the bFree tool will not allow you to migrate Test and Quizes.
> >>    Here at UNC we use the bFree tool to migrate the Course Documents over
> >> to Sakai.
> >>
> >> To get test and quizzes migrated over, we are also using the Respondus
> >> tool to do this.  We have a full time person who does this migration for
> >> users currently.
> >>
> >> I have also created a tool, which is the UGLIEST Sakai Tool ever
> >> created, that will read in the Blackboard Extract file and then move the
> >> documents to a courses resources folder.  This tool uses the bFree code
> >> to extract and parse the Blackboard Migration File.  I would be happy to
> >> share it with you, but I am very ashamed of it :D
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> ==============================================================================
> >> Mike Jennings
> >> Teaching and Learning Developer
> >> University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
> >>
> >> Office: (919) 843-5013
> >> Cell: (919) 698-3746
> >> E-mail: mike_jennings at unc.edu
> >>
> >> On 7/25/2012 2:48 AM, Nkululeko Phakela wrote:
> >>> Hi Shoji,
> >>>
> >>> We here at Wits were doing the same thing, and we used Respondus, and it
> >>> worked out very well for us.
> >>>
> >>> I think that you will find it makes the process very easy.
> >>>
> >>> Kind Regards,
> >>> Nguni
> >>>
> >>> On 25 Jul 2012, at 12:57 AM, Nate Angell wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Shoji:
> >>>>
> >>>> IIRC, WebCT/Bb changed formats in the move to CE 8 in a way that makes
> >>>> them less open to parsing (eg, using bfree). You may need to try
> >>>> something like connecting a tool like Respondus to CE 8 and Sakai CLE
> >>>> and using it to migrate assessments.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Nate Angell
> >>>> Sakai Product Manager
> >>>> rSmart
> >>>> http://www.rsmart.com <http://www.rsmart.com/>
> >>>> http://twitter.com/xolotl
> >>>> http://xolotl.org <http://xolotl.org/>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Shoji Kajita <kajita at nagoya-u.jp
> >>>> <mailto:kajita at nagoya-u.jp>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>      Hi Steve,
> >>>>
> >>>>      Thank you for your suggestion!
> >>>>
> >>>>      I will take a look and verify whether it works or not for CE8 very
> >>>>      soon.
> >>>>
> >>>>      Best regards,
> >>>>      Shoji
> >>>>      ---
> >>>>      Shoji Kajita
> >>>>      IT Planning Office, IIMC
> >>>>      Kyoto University
> >>>>
> >>>>      At Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:10:18 +1000,
> >>>>      Steve Swinsburg wrote:
> >>>>      >
> >>>>      > Hi Shoji,
> >>>>      >
> >>>>      > UNC have bFree, which is a converter for Blackboard content:
> >>>>      > http://its2.unc.edu/tl/tli/bFree/
> >>>>      >
> >>>>      > Not sure if it does quiz exports though.
> >>>>      >
> >>>>      > I've cc'd Mike Jennings.
> >>>>      >
> >>>>      > cheers,
> >>>>      > Steve
> >>>>      >
> >>>>      > On 23/07/2012, at 11:07 PM, Shoji Kajita wrote:
> >>>>      >
> >>>>      > > Dear Sakai Developers,
> >>>>      > >
> >>>>      > > At Kyoto University, we are now in the preparation of
> >>>>      migration from
> >>>>      > > Bb (WebCT) CE8 to Sakai 2-9-x.
> >>>>      > >
> >>>>      > > Most of courses required for migration include assessments so
> >>>>      that we
> >>>>      > > have been trying to use the Samigo importer based on IMS QTI
> >>>>      > > 1.2.
> >>>>      > >
> >>>>      > > Unfortunately, however, the exported files from CE8 cannot be
> >>>>      imported
> >>>>      > > by Samigo importer right now.
> >>>>      > >
> >>>>      > > Does anybody have experiences to import IMS QTI 1.2 files exported
> >>>>      > > from WebCT CE8?
> >>>>      > >
> >>>>      > > As far as I searched, I could not find any exact information
> >>>>      on it. I
> >>>>      > > think that IMS QTI 1.2 is not strict so that we probably need
> >>>>      to fix
> >>>>      > > some XMLs exported from CE8.
> >>>>      > >
> >>>>      > > We are very welcome for any suggestions, comments and references.
> >>>>      > >
> >>>>      > > Best regards,
> >>>>      > > Shoji Kajita
> >>>>      > > Kyoto University
> >>>>      > > Japan
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