[Building Sakai] Editing Course Site Participants

[Zhen Qian]

Mike: 

That sounds great. Thanks for your offer. 

- Zhen 

On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:29:11 +0000, "Jennings, Michael"  wrote:   

Zhen, 

The Jira SAK-20457 does address my issue entirely. I think that it would
also be good to not remove the instructor from the course if removing the
roster removes all of the instructors from the course. 

I would be happy to work on this Jira issue and contributing the code back
as UNC-Chapel Hill will be working on this type of enhancement anyways. 

Thanks, 

Mike Jennings 

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Mike Jennings 

Teaching and Learning Developer 

University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 

Office: (919) 843-5013 

Cell: (919) 442-8337  

E-mail: mike_jennings at unc.edu 

FROM: Zhen Qian [mailto:zqian at umich.edu] 
 SENT: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:33 AM
 TO: Jennings, Michael
 CC: Paul Marais; Ciellie Jansen Van Vuuren;
sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org; Jaques Smith
 SUBJECT: RE: [Building
Sakai] Editing Course Site Participants 

Hi, Mike: 

This is totally valid request that at least one instructor/owner role user
should remain in the site after roster removal. In fact, could you please
take a look at this jira SAK-20457
(https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-20457 [1])?  

Please let me know whether it addresses your request. 

Thanks, 

- Zhen 

On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 03:07:09 +0000, "Jennings, Michael"  wrote:   

Zhen,

 Here at UNC we are using SAKORA to manage our course sites and rosters. We
are currently in the process of allowing the Instructor create Courses and
attach Rosters to the sites through the course site creation tool. This all
works great, but we have run into a issue when the instructor removes the
roster, they essentially remove everyone from the course, including
themselves. Now the instructor has no access to the course site that they
were currently managing, so they go back through the course site creation
process, get a message that there
course has been created, and have to
create a duplicate course instead of being added back to the course they
once were in.

 I would rather have the remove roster function only remove students from a
course site in this manner. This would prevent duplicate sites from being
created by instructors in Sakai when they are just trying to get there
access back to a site they once belonged to and accidently removed there
access to. Also the removal of the roster probably should have a error
message telling the instructor in more detail that they are going to remove
there access to the site.

 This is a reason that I could see for keeping instructors in courses when
the roster is removed.

 Mike Jennings   
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FROM: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
[sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] on behalf of Zhen Qian
[zqian at umich.edu]
 SENT: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:39 AM
 TO: Paul Marais
 CC: Ciellie Jansen Van Vuuren; sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org;
Jaques
Smith
 SUBJECT: Re: [Building Sakai] Editing Course Site Participants   

Paul: 

Your Quartz job synchronizes roster information with Sakai course site.
Those added site members are considered as provided by external provider
(your course management system). Hence there is no option to remove them
within Site Info tool.  

Since the roster information contains both instructor and student roles,
remove a roster takes away both user kinds. Is there any specific reason to
just keep instructors and remove all students from a course site? 

Thanks, 

- Zhen 

On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 16:26:10 +0200, Paul Marais wrote:   

Hello, 

currently we're inserting our Sakai Course Management through a Quartz Job
via Job Scheduler. 

We're using the Course Management API's to insert the data. 

When I sign on with a user that has the 'Instructor' role I can see that
he/she is added along with all the students (users with 'Student' role),
but there is no option to remove the students from the
site? 

Also, when editing the class roster I only have the option to remove the
roster. When I do click it, it removes the instructor from the site aswell.
Is there a maybe a way to exclude the lecturer from the roster, so that
he/she is not removed? 

Thank you 

Paul   

 

Links:
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[1] https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-20457
[2] mailto:mike_jennings at unc.edu
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