[Building Sakai] forums section aware

[JOSE MARIANO LUJAN GONZALEZ]

Hi Kara,

We will try creating them manually and see how it goes. If it gets too  
complicated for instructos, then we will need to find another  
solution. Right now, sections are created automatically depending on  
the data that comes from the administration offices. Thats why we  
thought about making the process automatically during the creation of  
the site since we already know how many sections the site will have.

I will let you know if we think about any other way around...
Thanks a lot for your help!
Mariano


Kara Stiles <kara.stiles at rsmart.com> escribió:

> Hi Mariano,
>
> I don't think there's a (functional or configurable) way to have a section
> forum created every time a section is created (this is Sakai, though, so
> with enough time and dev effort you can make it do nearly anything).
>
> You could try duplicating your course site and see if the sections, forums,
> and section/forum configuration follow with the site duplication.  That's
> the only thing I can think of to make the creation of these forums less
> cumbersome (through "template" sites), though depending on how sections are
> getting into your courses (manually or automatically), that may not be an
> option.
>
> Thanks,
> Kara
>
> 2011/2/3 José Mariano Luján González <jmariano at um.es>
>
>>  Kara Stiles escribió:
>>
>> Yes, Forums is group and section aware. You have to go into the settings
>> page for each forum and/or topic and make changes to the permissions for
>> roles and groups.
>>
>> I also remember that the groups/sections do not appear on the forum
>> settings/topic settings pages unless each group/section has at least one
>> user in it.
>>
>> Using group/section awareness in Forums successfully requires, in my
>> experience, creative permission changes and lots of testing.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kara Stiles
>>
>> 2011/2/1 José Mariano Luján González <jmariano at um.es>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I´m sure this is a simple question... is FORUM section aware? I´ve been
>>> looking around and it doesnt look like section aware. We are going to
>>> start an ONLINE course with different sections (each section with a
>>> different Teaching Assistant) and since most part of the work is going
>>> to take place in Forums, we want to know if there is a way of opening
>>> different forums for each section. We would like to have them separated.
>>> Any ideas?
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mariano
>>> Universidad de Murcia
>>>
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>>
>>  Hi Kara,
>> Thanks for your indications, I actually solved the problem yesterday thanks
>> to Dani Merino (yes!, FORUMS is section aware), I was expecting to see the
>> configuration in another way (like in all other tools, but since Forums has
>> its own roles, thats why it is a bit different). I think it's a bit complex
>> for a medium user. As you say, when you create the forum or topic, you can
>> set specific permissions to a Section but what I see know, is that you can´t
>> differ from roles in that section, you apply the permissions to all the
>> section. I´m sure you have more experience using forums and maybe I´m doing
>> something wrong...
>>
>>  The testing that I did is:
>> One course with two sections (G1 and G2).
>> The default course forum is visible for both sections.
>> I created one forum with one topic for each section (F1, T1 only visible
>> for G1 and F2, T2 only visible for G2)
>>      F1 and T1
>>             G1 section (contributor)
>>             G2 section (none)
>>             Student (none)
>>      F2 and T2
>>             G1 section (none)
>>             G2 section (contributor)
>>             Student (none)
>> I created one forum visible for both sections (F3, T3 visible for G1 and
>> G2).
>>      F3 and T3
>>             Default permissions
>>
>> With that configuration Instructors would see all forums and they have
>> permission for configuration "Owner" and Students would only see their
>> specific forum and the common forum with only "Contributor" permissions. Do
>> you know if its possible to have a SECTION forum created automatically for
>> each section in the same way that the site forum is created?? That would
>> make it easier for instructors and also could give them an example on how to
>> use SECTION forums.
>>
>> I´m not sure if i´ve been clear on my explanation, if you need some more
>> info, please let me know.
>> Thanks a lot!
>> Mariano
>>
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