[Building Sakai] Sakai & MathJax

Thu Apr 14 06:19:14 PDT 2011

FYI - recent builds of Sakai OAE include MathJax support; see:
https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/3AK/Math+Formula+Support

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On Apr 13, 2011, at 8:17 PM, Nate Angell wrote:

> Hylke:
> 
> I see that you may have dropped off this thread you sparked off on the
> Sakai development list and I wanted to make sure you saw the ensuing
> discussion.
> 
> I'd love to hear more about how other technologies have incorporated
> MathJax, and maybe addressed both the WYSIWYG editor question and the
> load issues as Matthew outlined below.
> 
> Guess about your location in the Netherlands, I'm copying a few folks
> from the Dutch Sakai community on this email as well, in case it would
> be fruitful to make connections there.
> 
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> 
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Matthew Jones <jonespm at umich.edu> wrote:
>> Agreed, this was discussed but there were a few technical issues that
>> stopped us, from what I remember:
>> 1) We ideally don't want the 99%+ of the pages scanned for Latex that
>> probably won't have it for the 1% that do. We were thinking of some way with
>> the CKEditor to have a plugin where a user could enter their Latex math
>> equations, then it would put a span with a math class around it (similar to
>> how jsMath pre-processed), so that the pre-processor could check the page
>> for these classes and only target them rather than scanning all documents. A
>> plugin would also make it more obvious to the user that math was supported
>> and give them a place to entire it.
>> 2) We were unable to find a really good wysiwyg editor plugin editor at the
>> time, forcing users to edit their math outside of the app or *know* Latex.
>> The conversation about an editor kind of sidetracked the discussion on
>> rendering.
>> 3) In testing this out, or internal filter would corrupt some of the latex
>> (by removing some of the code) and didn't allow the MathML by default. So
>> some additional work was needed on that which we didn't have time to finish
>> working on at the time.
>> MathJax definitely looked like a great project to me and certainly would be
>> nice for someone to revisit.
>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Zhen Qian <zqian2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Hylke:
>>> Great to hear from you! The idea of integrate of Sakai with MathJax is
>>> definitely of great interest to Sakai community and has been discussed a
>>> couple of times. You can find the latest discussion on this following wiki
>>> page[1].
>>> Last time we tried is with MathJax v1.0. I believe there is a concern with
>>> the library loading time. I haven't tried the lastest v1.1 yet. I am glad to
>>> report any new findings afterwards.
>>> Thanks,
>>> - Zhen
>>> --------------------------------
>>> Zhen Qian
>>> Software Developer
>>> University of Michigan
>>> 734.647.6343
>>> ---------------------------------
>>> [1]
>>> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/PED/Math+Editing+Ideas+for+Sakai
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Hylke Koers <hylkek at mathjax.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> My name is Hylke Koers and I work on MathJax (www.mathjax.org), a new
>>>> open source web technology that displays mathematics on the web. I am
>>>> reaching out to you because I believe that MathJax will be of interest to
>>>> Sakai. I hope this mailing list is the appropriate venue.
>>>> 
>>>> In a nutshell, MathJax is an open source JavaScript technology that
>>>> dynamically renders mathematical expressions on a webpage, smoothly
>>>> integrating it into the surrounding text on all levels of zoom and across
>>>> viewing devices. MathJax is easy to use for both authors and readers: it
>>>> supports LaTeX and MathML, works on all modern browsers (without plug-ins),
>>>> tablets, and smartphones, and it can be used on any HTML page by including a
>>>> single line of code in the HTML header linking to the public MathJax CDN.
>>>> Besides math display, MathJax also lets users copy and paste math into
>>>> calculation applications, and helps to make mathematics accessible to
>>>> readers with print disabilities.
>>>> 
>>>> MathJax is rapidly becoming the new standard for quality display
>>>> mathematics in HTML. Initiated by Design Science, the American Mathematical
>>>> Society, and the Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics, it is
>>>> already in use by leading publishers and platforms. Some places where you
>>>> can see MathJax in action:
>>>> - Stack Exchange:
>>>> http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/22954/proving-that-xy-x-y-being-x-and-y-two-strings
>>>> - OpenStudy OCW Scholar, discussion platform for MIT OpenCourseWare:
>>>> http://bit.ly/hYnLBe
>>>> - Connexions: http://cnx.org/content/m36168/latest/
>>>> 
>>>> Please feel free to contact me at hylkek at mathjax.org of you would like to
>>>> hear more about our project; it would be a pleasure to follow up with more
>>>> details.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, and best wishes,
>>>> 
>>>> Hylke Koers
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