[Building Sakai] Change proposal for 2.8: export_filename_date_format (i18n to configuration)

[Warwick Chapman]

Steve

Great map.  I can agree that the MM/dd/yyyy format confuses the heck out of
me every time I see it.  I've spent my life seeing the day first - makes
perfect sense dunnit, smaller, bigger, biggest - and thus the 'yankee' style
is well described as 'uncomfortable'.

+1 to ISO format

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On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Steve Swinsburg
<steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>wrote:

> I would also argue that most English locales are not comfortable with the
> US format date string either, as the MM-dd-yyyy format seems illogical to
> the rest of us. This format is not even used outside the US. However, the
> ISO format of yyyy-MM-dd is perfectly suitable and I would +1 this being the
> default with the option to configure.
>
> Interesting map here:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_by_country
>
> cheers,
> Steve
>
> On 22/07/2010, at 11:50 PM, Beth Kirschner wrote:
>
> > Possibly true, but just aiming to simplify localization. I'm doubtful
> > most translators will know how to 'localize' the date format string,
> > so as long as folks are comfortable with most locales defaulting to a
> > US format, than this shouldn't be a problem.
> >
> > - Beth
> >
> > On Jul 22, 2010, at 5:10 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
> >
> >> I think your suggestion is not as simple as needed and may be risky.
> >> Are we sure we only need to remove spaces in every locale to have a
> >> suitable string for part of a file name? I wouldn't bet on it.
> >>
> >> J-F
> >>
> >> Beth Kirschner a écrit :
> >>> I would suggest formatting the date automatically, leveraging the
> >>> Java DateFormat.getDateFormat() which takes Locale as an argument.
> >>> The resulting date string can then be transformed into a suitable
> >>> filename by removing spaces. Automating this would be one less
> >>> thing to worry about when localizing Sakai.
> >>> - Beth
> >>> On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I think export_filename_date_format (used in Gradebook, Roster,
> >>>> Tests &
> >>>> Quizzes (Samigo), User Membership and SiteStats) is not a i18n
> >>>> property
> >>>> but a configuration property.
> >>>>
> >>>> Because it's used in several tools, I would like it to become a
> >>>> general
> >>>> configuration property.
> >>>>
> >>>> I propose to use the name general.export_filename_date_format in
> >>>> configuration and to set its default to the ISO date format of
> >>>> yyyy-MM-dd.
> >>>>
> >>>> For further details and related problems, you can check:
> >>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-17240
> >>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/STAT-191
> >>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-15872
> >>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-15682
> >>>>
> >>>> What do the code owners and others devs think?
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jean-Francois
> >>
> >>
> >
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