[Building Sakai] Moodle export/import suitability for Sakai 3

Fri Sep 18 06:24:39 PDT 2009

ims cc would seem the sensible way to go.

adam

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Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Moodle export/import suitability for Sakai 3

For the cross-system use cases, I would lean heavily toward IMS Common Cartridge, not because it's technically better than the alternatives (I have no idea if it is or not), but because some of the bigger players are putting resources into developing support for it, which means it has a better chance of being a successful exchange format. D2L has announced that they support CC (import only at the moment), Blackboard (via Ray Henderson) has committed to full import and export of CC, it's on the road map for Moodle 2.0, and Pearson has been throwing resources into it.

- m

John Norman wrote:

Sean set me on a different line of thinking. Who would we be building

export/import for?

Institution:

- as part of a year to year migration (export key elements from this

years course and reimport them to set up the outline of next years

course). This feels like we could/should handle it better with some

other solution

- as part of a migration from one system to another. In this case we

care about matching to the other system. This was in my mind when I

suggested we should look at Moodle, Bb and CC formats

- as part of a sharing initiative. Something like opencourseware, but

where the intent is that the visitor can download and use the course

in their system

Publisher:

- as a way of publishing a 'pre-canned' course to multiple

institutions running multiple systems (our interest is primarily

import, but see below)

Individual

- as a way of 'taking their course with them' as they move from

institution to institution

- as a way of 'adopting' a course created by someone else at a

different institution (here the individual sharing is in a similar

position to the publisher above)

Other???

It strikes me that the amount and nature of what needs to move changes

according to circumstance. It might be worth describing which

scenarios we feel it is important to support.

John

On 17 Sep 2009, at 07:26, John Norman wrote:

Several thoughts here. You don't say so, but I hope we are talking

about Moodle as an export option (alongside IMS Course Cartridge and

Native). I would hate to think we would loose information

transferring from one Sakai to another because we use an export

format that does not contain all of our concepts. Then in

contemplating secondary formats for interchange with other systems,

we need to consider how stable/how fast they change and the

maintenance burden.

I suspect it would be a lot of work, but it would be great to have a

comparison that compared Bb export formats with Moodle with CC. I

wonder if the IMS folk have this..?

John

On 16 Sep 2009, at 21:35, Speelmon, Lance Day wrote:

I could use a second pair of eyes on the Moodle backup format.  I

managed to get the latest build of Moodle up and running and then

created a sample backup zip file.  We are trying to determine

suitability of their format as an export/import format for Sakai

3.  Grab the sample below and provide any feedback you have on the

wiki page.  Thanks, L

http://confluence.sakaiproject.org//x/ERLtAw<http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/x/ERLtAw>

Lance Speelmon

Scholarly Technologist

On Aug 17, 2009, at 4:53 PM, Speelmon, Lance Day wrote:

As we prepare to start working on a Sakai 2 -> Sakai 3 migration

effort, I would like to help organize community contributions.

There are a number of roles and skills that need to be filled and

your participation would be highly valued.

What can be done immediately:

1) Collaborate on defining the migration project plan.

2) Investigate LTI as an underlying mechanism for exposing Sakai 2

tools within the Saki 3 portal.

3) Investigate Moodle's export/import architecture and file formats.

4) Develop a Sakai 2 Resources (i.e. ContentHosting) to Sakai 3

JCR data conversion.

If any of these tasks sound interesting or you have other ideas

you would like to share, please use the wiki space below.  Please

take the time to declare your area of interest on the Contributors

page.

http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/KERNDOC/Migration

Thanks!  L

Lance Speelmon

Scholarly Technologist

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