[Building Sakai] FCKeditor improvement?

[Johns, Cheryl]

It is annoying with or without using Paste from Word.  Our professors use some pretty fancy formatting that the paste from Word doesn't handle well and pasting without using that is even worse.

From: branden at uwindsor.ca [mailto:branden at uwindsor.ca]
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:44 PM
To: Johns, Cheryl
Cc: sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
Subject: RE: [Building Sakai] FCKeditor improvement?


Just to make sure we're on the same page Cheryl, my post is referring to users pasting into FCKeditor  *without* using the "Paste From Word" option.

FCK allows users to do a standard paste (not "Paste from Word", not "Paste as Plain Text") that formats the output, but the source is much different than if you were to use "Paste from Word". Ever since applying SAK-13922, users' pastes when actually using "Paste from Word" seem to have gone through quite well.

Best,
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Branden Visser
LMS Application Programmer - Information Systems Services
Information Technology Services
University of Windsor

"Johns, Cheryl" <cheryl.johns at yale.edu> wrote on 14/05/2009 01:30:38 PM:

> "Johns, Cheryl" <cheryl.johns at yale.edu>
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> Yes, our users are pretty frustrated with the paste from Word option
> as well.  Much of the formatting is lost or just plain not correct
> when it comes through in the FCK editor.
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> bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of branden at uwindsor.ca
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> Subject: [Building Sakai] FCKeditor improvement?
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> Hi everyone,
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> We handle quite a few support calls with FCKeditor and pasting from
> Word. I think this comes from FCK's best effort attempt at
> sanitizing a "Paste" from word, when users don't use the "Paste from
> Word" function. Users simply don't Preview (should they have to if
> it's a WYSIWYG editor?), and they simply don't think to use the
> "Paste from Word" icon. The result is that what they saw is
> definitely not what they got.
>
> There are a couple possible solutions to this offered in FCK, but
> they all have pretty dominant disadvantages:
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> 1. Force paste as plain text. Obvious disadvantage is that you can
> no longer have rich text pastes, as it disables the "Paste from Word" icon
> 2. Auto-detect pastes from Word. Disadvantage is that it only works
> for IE, and can amplify the problem of people not using "Paste from Word"
>
> Does every other institution share this headache? I've found out how
> to trick FCKeditor into not disabling the "Paste from Word" function
> in solution #1 if ForcePastePlainText is enabled -- is this a
> desirable configuration for anyone? Can anyone think of any obvious
> reasons why we wouldn't want to make this change?
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> Thanks,
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> Branden Visser
> LMS Application Programmer - Information Systems Services
> Information Technology Services
> University of Windsor
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