[Building Sakai] What are your group and role integration needs?

[Adam Marshall]

Ray - 

I think myself, adam.marshall a-in-a-circle oucs.ox.ac.uk (!), and Matthew
Buckett, matthew.buckett a-in-a-circle oucs.ox.ac.uk, would like to be
involved in any discussions / new mail lists etc.

We're doing some pretty unique stuff with groups here in Oxford. I'm pretty
sure I posted an outline of what we're doing six months or so ago.

In short, 

1) we're dynamically fetching groups from out LDAP to use as site
participants 
2) we intend to make it easy for maintainers to .auth and .anon to sites
3) we will also allow 'large groups' (500+ users?) to be given 'site visit'
& 'content.read' access by maintainers

Adam 

| -----Original Message-----
| From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-dev-
| bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Ray Davis
| Sent: 11 May 2009 19:46
| To: sakai-dev
| Subject: [Building Sakai] What are your group and role integration needs?
| 
| A couple of years ago, a Sakai team asked the community for help
| understanding your institutional structures as they might ideally be
| known to your LMS/CLE. That effort led to an abstraction of "course
| management" data which was more practically useful than those that had
| preceded it. But our ability to use this new model in an optimal way
| from Sakai applications was hobbled by lack of dedicated personnel and
| by the need to preserve legacy approaches to site management and
| permission handling.
| 
| This year, the time seems right to finally take on the issues of
| federated authorization:
| 
| * IMS is about to bring out their Learning Information Services proposal
| <http://www.imsglobal.org/enterprise.cfm>, which I expect will meet all
| the use cases met by the Sakai CM API in a way that attracts the
| attention of developers from outside the Sakai community. For example,
| the attention of...
| 
| * Oracle, who has an early implementation built on PeopleSoft:
| http://www.oracle.com/applications/peoplesoft/campus_solutions/ent/module/
| student-administration-integration-pack.html
| 
| * Which is turn is being used by Unicon as a new integration point for
| Sakai:
| http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/IMSES/Sakora+Project+Updat
| e
| 
| * But also being used by Moodlerooms as a new integration point for
| Moodle:
| http://mfeldstein.com/moodlerooms-doing-great-standards-based-integration-
| work/
| 
| * Meanwhile, many schools are looking for secure ways to cut maintenance
| costs by going through external hosting solutions like Google Apps:
| http://www.google.com/educators/p_apps.html
| 
| * And meanwhile, many schools are looking for new ways to let their
| LMS/CLE mash up external Web 2.0 applications or take advantage of cloud
| services.
| 
| * And meanwhile, Internet2 has started a working group to understand
| access management needs across a wide range of software products and
| services: http://middleware.internet2.edu/paccman/
| 
| * While Internet2's COmanage project continues to try to share
| authorization data more efficiently across applications:
| http://middleware.internet2.edu/co/
| 
| * And then there are these efforts called "Sakai 3" and "K2" which you
| may have heard something about...
| 
| So I'm sending this to ask you to start thinking and talking about how
| you'd ideally like to see groups, roles, and permissions handled in your
| college's or university's open source collaborative framework --
| particularly when it comes to merging "inside the application" views
| (like "assign authorship of this research paper to this particular
| subset of site members") with "outside the application" views (like
| "Philosophy majors" or "my Facebook friends").
| 
| We don't yet have a specific Sakai mailing list, wiki space, or Google
| Group for this work, but I'll keep track of discussions until we find
| the proper spot. Unfortunately, for the next couple of weeks I'll have
| only part-time network access. However, starting at the end of May I
| should be able to convey more Sakai use cases to the MACE-paccman group,
| and in June I'll be attending the Educause CAMP summit on Identity
| Services: <http://net.educause.edu/CAMP093>.
| 
| Thanks in advance for your help and (continued) patience,
| Ray
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