[Building Sakai] Presentation tool

Gopal Patil patil.gopal.a at gmail.com
Fri May 8 21:30:29 PDT 2009 

Ohhhhh! Ok i got the point.At least can i play audio/video file? in
presentations tool.


Regards,
Gopal

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Mark Norton <markjnorton at earthlink.net>wrote:

> the problem with PPT conversion is that, to some extent, PPT is a
> proprietary format owned by the Microsoft Corp.  Sakai avoids situations
> like requiring an MS Office license on the server to just to do PPT
> conversion.
>
> Gopal Patil wrote:
>
>> Thanks Norton and Marka for your valuable guidance !
>>  Norton Still i am uanable to find any link for PPT / video presentation
>> in presentation tool.
>>
>>  and if we need to convert every PPT into images then it will be hectic
>> for user and will create lots of confusion as we need to keep every PPT in
>> to separate folder.
>>
>> If any one got the functionality related to PPT/ video presentation then
>> please let me know.
>>
>> As I am facing problem in every tool that i m exploring from sakai.
>>
>> starting from grade book,agora,presentation ,...etc.
>>
>> Please give the solution for at least tool.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Gopal
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:14 PM, James Marca <jmarca at translab.its.uci.edu<mailto:
>> jmarca at translab.its.uci.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>    On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 09:54:34AM -0400, Mark Norton wrote:
>>    > Gopal Patil wrote:
>>    > > Thanks Norton,
>>    > >
>>    > >  do you mean there is support in sakai to convert PPT 's to
>>    images??
>>    > > or we need to convert that externaly?
>>    > I believe there is support to upload a PPT and convert it such
>>    that it
>>    > can be presented by the Presentation Tool.  I don't recall
>>    exactly how
>>    > this is done, but I believe that it can be done.
>>
>>    I never had much luck with the presentation tool.  It generally works
>>    as advertised, but doesn't do what people expect---show a powerpoint
>>    presentation.
>>
>>    If you want to use the presentation tool, I can't speak to any
>>    conversion facilities inside of Sakai, but I don't recall seeing any.
>>    We did try an automatic conversion to images and text approach with a
>>    different e-learning platform during our trial period (sorry I do not
>>    recall the name, other than it was not Moodle) that integrated
>>    OpenOffice libraries to convert ppt to either flash or html.  We also
>>    tried using ppt itself to generate a website for inclusion into Sakai.
>>
>>
>>    We eventually settled on a toolchain using Adobe Presenter, which does
>>    a pretty good job of exporting to Flash in a SCORM-compliant way, and
>>    it now comes bundled with the upgraded Adobe Acrobat package we can
>>    get at pretty reasonable academic prices.  We're currently hooking
>>    that up in a site by uploading the entire output directory into
>>    resources (yay webdav), and using the Web Content tool to link the
>>    generated index.html page as a 'tool'.  We are not using the SCORM
>>    tool (yet) but it seems to have matured since we first set off on this
>>    route.
>>
>>    In the end, all approaches that convert ppt into images and text
>>    didn't cut it for the instructors who were preparing the ppt files in
>>    the first place.  The primary failing we noticed right off was the
>>    lack of support for animations.  I'm not talking about slide
>>    transitions; I'm talking about things moving within a slide to
>>    demonstrate concepts.  (But even slide transitions would be nice to
>>    break up the monotony.)
>>
>>    Further, after we started using Adobe Presenter we realized another
>>    problem with most conversion tools is the lack of audio and timing
>>    support.  In one of the web resources related to her book slide:ology
>>    (sorry, can't find the link), Nancy Duarte noted that without a person
>>    "presenting" the images and text, it isn't really a presentation.
>>    With a voice-over and presenter-timed slide advances, Adobe Presenter
>>    lets you come close to a live presentation.
>>
>>    Finally, it would be awesome if we as a community could add audio,
>>    animations and timing into some sort of accessible, Fluid-based
>>    hyper-lightbox.
>>
>>    Hope that helps, and sorry for side-tracking the thread.
>>
>>    James Marca
>>
>>    > >
>>    > > and what i understood is we should only upload images in
>>    presentation.
>>    > Well ....  you might be able to include other things in a
>>    presentation
>>    > such as web pages or videos.  You might try tinkering with the
>>    > presentation list file.  It's been years since I was involved
>>    with this,
>>    > Idon't remember all the details.
>>    >
>>    > One thing that might give you more information is to search Jira for
>>    > tickets associated with the Presentation tool.  That will tell
>>    you what
>>    > was fixed, added, etc.
>>    >
>>    > - Mark
>>    > >
>>    > >
>>    > > Regards,
>>    > > Gopal
>>    > >
>>    > >
>>    > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Mark Norton
>>    <markjnorton at earthlink.net <mailto:markjnorton at earthlink.net>
>>    > > <mailto:markjnorton at earthlink.net
>>
>>    <mailto:markjnorton at earthlink.net>>> wrote:
>>    > >
>>    > >     I believe that support has been provided to convert PowerPoint
>>    > >     (PPT) to a series of slides that the Presentation Tool can
>>    use.
>>    > >      If not, it can be done by hand by exporting slides as
>>    images and
>>    > >     making sure naming conventions are observed.
>>    > >
>>    > >     - Mark Norton
>>    > >
>>    > >     Gopal Patil wrote:
>>    > >
>>    > >         Hello All,
>>    > >         I tried presentation tool and it is very nice.
>>    > >         but i think it works only for images.
>>    > >
>>    > >         can I use it for PPT or PDF ???
>>    > >         if yes what modifucations i need to do??
>>    > >
>>    > >         Please guide me.
>>    > >
>>    > >         Thanks
>>    > >         --
>>    > >         Gopal
>>    > >
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