[Building Sakai] How to do tests with samigo without acces to the rest of sakai

Sat May 2 08:14:39 PDT 2009

Clever students would probably cache course material elsewhere.....although
that may not be a concern......here's some stuff to consider (my apologies
if you already have): there's lots of strategies you can employ depending on
what level of test security you need and how "high stakes" the test is.  If
you really need to block access to the rest of the course you might consider
delivering the test in a testing center, blocking the rest of the course,
and putting the browsers in kiosk mode so the student can't wander elsewhere
on the Web.....hmmmm....but the student could still get into their My
Workspace right?  Seems like Samigo needs something like SecureExam or some
other service which allows for secure testing in an LMS.  Is this available
or is it being developed?

BTW, this is also an interesting conversation framed within the larger
conversation that some tech prognosticators are having about "the future of
the LMS".....at Academix 2009 in SLC David Wiley predicts that the next
iteration of LMS will focus mostly on a gradebook and a secure testing
tool.....David envisions that most everything else will be hosted on the
Web....we have instructors who teach more or less this way too.....still not
sure I buy this wholesale.....but it is an interesting vision.

Luke

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Sergio Pili <sergiop at unitech.com.ar> wrote:

>  David, Lydia, thank you.
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> Lydia is right. That is what we need, so that what David is proposing, we
> can not implement. L
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> Yes, all the students are taking the test during a fixed time period. For a
> couple of hours to be precise. The idea of hiding the resource files is not
> bad. I suppose that can be programmed to do something on a massive scale
> even.
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> Hmmm…. We can create and assign a new role while the studentes are taking
> the tests…
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> The role would not have permissions to resources, chat, Melete, forums,
> etc..
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> But I can’t find how to remove read permissions to some tools like
> syllabus, glossary , dropbox, messages…
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> Is this possible?
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> What think about this way?
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> Thank again!
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> Saludos,
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> Sergio
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> *De:* Lydia Li [mailto:lydial at stanford.edu]
> *Enviado el:* Domingo, 19 de Abril de 2009 04:40
> *Para:* DAVID ROLDAN MARTINEZ
> *CC:* Sergio Pili; sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
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> *Asunto:* Re: [Building Sakai] How to do tests with samigo without acces
> to the rest of sakai
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> David,
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>     Thanks for helping out.   Did you mean to take the students out of the
> old site and put them into a new site that only has the Samigo tests?   I
> think Sergio only wanted to block students' access to other Sakai tools,
> such as course's materials,  when  they are in the middle of taking a test.
> The students should still be able to  access course materials when they are
> not taking the test.  If you put the students in a new site that only has
> Samigo tests, they would not be able to access the course materials when
> they are not taking a test.  I'm not sure if that's what Sergio wants.
>
> Sergio, are all the students taking the test during a fixed time period,
> say, within a certain week? If so, you could hide the materials for that
> week.   My guess is that you were probably asking for something more
> complicated.  Unfortunately I can't think of any better ways now.
>
> thanks,
> Lydia
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> DAVID ROLDAN MARTINEZ wrote:
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>  Hi Sergio,
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>  This David Rold�n Mart�nez from Universidad Polit�cnica de Valencia (Spain). Maybe this workaround can be useful for you. I haven't tested it but I think it should work. :)
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>  Every quizz has a public url. You can create a site and include only a set of these urls. In this way, students only will have acces to quizzes. But...the only type of resource you can include oin the quizz have to be public.  Lydia, do you think this will work?
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>  Hope this helps.
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>  David
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> ________________________________________
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> De: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] En nombre de Sergio Pili [sergiop at unitech.com.ar]
>
> Enviado el: viernes, 17 de abril de 2009 18:28
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> Para: 'Lydia Li'
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> CC: sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>
> Asunto: Re: [Building Sakai] How to do tests with samigo without acces to       the     rest of sakai
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> Thanks Lydia.
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> Yes, the idea is to block a particular user immediately and just do the
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> exam. Thus creating a new role is not practical.
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> The problem is that teachers do not want students to have access to course's
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> material while they are doing the exam.
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> There is no way to do this? Any other idea?
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> Saludos,
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> Sergio
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> -----Mensaje original-----
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> De: Lydia Li [mailto:lydial at stanford.edu <lydial at stanford.edu>]
>
> Enviado el: Jueves, 16 de Abril de 2009 18:29
>
> Para: Sergio Pili
>
> CC: sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>
> Asunto: Re: [Building Sakai] How to do tests with samigo without acces to
>
> the rest of sakai
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>
>
> Sergio Pili wrote:
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> Hi,
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> Is it possible to deny access to the rest of the tools for a single user
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> that is doing a test with samigo?
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> My only idea would be to create a new role via Realm for the site that
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> only has permissions for Samigo checked, and assign the students to this
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> role, but I'm not sure if that would work for you.
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>
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> Are you asking if there was a way to immediately block a particular user
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> access to other sakai tools as soon as he/she starts taking a test in
>
> Samigo? I'm not sure if there is a way...  Others might have some ideas.
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> thanks,
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> Lydia
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> Thanks!
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> Saludos,
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> Sergio
>
> Unitech
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