[Building Sakai] IE 8

[Sean Keesler]

Funny isn't it?
The new value of IE will be its backwards compatibility with poorly
constructed pages that rendered well in previous lousy IE versions.

Round and round....

---Sean



On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Steve Swinsburg
<s.swinsburg at lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:
> That was a frustrating read. The article calls for all browsers to implement
> these backwards compliant rendering modes.
>
> All this is going to do is allow people to generate bad markup that is
> hacked to work in some specific version of a browser and never update it as
> bugs are fixed and new browsers released.
>
> The comments on that article say it all:
> http://www.alistapart.com/comments/beyonddoctype/
>
>
> Steve
>
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>
> On 20 Mar 2009, at 13:07, Sean Keesler wrote:
>
>> Here is a article about that:
>> http://www.alistapart.com/articles/beyonddoctype
>>
>> I guess the release of IE7 broke lots of sites because designers had
>> placed DOCTYPEs on their pages and then didn't follow the spec for
>> that type in their design.
>>
>> --Sean
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Steve Swinsburg
>> <s.swinsburg at lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've never understood the logic behind using an attribute that forces a
>>> new
>>> browser (IE8) to render in the old mode (IE7).
>>>
>>> Isn't the DOCTYPE meant to tell the browser what mode to render the page
>>> in?
>>> It's kind of getting old having to employ workarounds for Internet
>>> Explorer.
>>>
>>> Until Sakai can be rendered in IE8 properly, without this silly
>>> workaround,
>>> my vote would be to NOT have it on the supported browsers list.
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Steve Swinsburg
>>> Portal Systems Developer
>>> Centre for e-Science
>>> Lancaster University
>>> Lancaster
>>> LA1 4YT
>>>
>>> email: s.swinsburg at lancaster.ac.uk
>>> phone: +44 (0) 1524 594870
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20 Mar 2009, at 10:04, Adam Marshall wrote:
>>>
>>>> We've set the ie 7 compatibility header:
>>>>
>>>> <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=EmulateIE7">
>>>>
>>>> This entirely fixes any IE 8 issues (or rather, we havent noticed
>>>> anything
>>>> that doesnt work).
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> | -----Original Message-----
>>>> | From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-dev-
>>>> | bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Knoop, Peter
>>>> | Sent: 19 March 2009 19:46
>>>> | To: Silverio, Gonzalo; Ron Peterson; sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>> | Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] IE 8
>>>> |
>>>> | > -----Original Message-----
>>>> | > From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-dev-
>>>> | > bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Silverio, Gonzalo
>>>> | > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:18 PM
>>>> | > To: Ron Peterson; sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>> | > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] IE 8
>>>> | >
>>>> | > I have been correcting  issues as they are reported in the portal
>>>> and
>>>> | > old core tools, for trunk. Tool owners using version specific
>>>> | > conditional comments that did not take new versions into account
>>>> (like
>>>> | > Resources, to my shame) might want to take a look at their use.
>>>> | >
>>>> | > On a side note, would the supported browsers list merit revision?
>>>> |
>>>> |
>>>> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/QA/Browser+Support
>>>> |
>>>> | IE8 has not been part of the suite of browsers used regularly by the
>>>> QA
>>>> | team for Sakai 2.6, which is currently in the final stages of testing.
>>>> | I'll leave it to Pete as to when he is planning to add IE8 to the mix.
>>>>  It
>>>> | is certainly likely to be a major browser by later this year for Sakai
>>>> 2.5
>>>> | and 2.6 deployments, if not sooner.  There will likely be a need to
>>>> deal
>>>> | with Windows 7 (with its version of IE8 and Firefox) as well in the
>>>> near
>>>> | future.
>>>> |
>>>> | -peter
>>>> |
>>>> |
>>>> | > On 3/19/09 3:10 PM, "Ron Peterson" <rpeterso at mtholyoke.edu> wrote:
>>>> | > IE 8 is out of beta today.
>>>> | >
>>>> | > Has anyone used it against Sakai?  I'm mostly interested in 2.5.x,
>>>> but
>>>> | > of course it's widespread use will be relevant to all of the
>>>> releases.
>>>> | >
>>>> | > --
>>>> | > Ron Peterson
>>>> | > Network & Systems Manager
>>>> | > Mount Holyoke College
>>>> | > http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~rpeterso
>>>> | > facebook: http://tinyurl.com/d63r5c
>>>> | > -
>>>> | > I wish my computer would do what I want it to do - not what I tell
>>>> it
>>>> | > to do.
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