[Building Sakai] IE 8

[Steve Swinsburg]

That was a frustrating read. The article calls for all browsers to  
implement these backwards compliant rendering modes.

All this is going to do is allow people to generate bad markup that is  
hacked to work in some specific version of a browser and never update  
it as bugs are fixed and new browsers released.

The comments on that article say it all:
http://www.alistapart.com/comments/beyonddoctype/


Steve





On 20 Mar 2009, at 13:07, Sean Keesler wrote:

> Here is a article about that:
> http://www.alistapart.com/articles/beyonddoctype
>
> I guess the release of IE7 broke lots of sites because designers had
> placed DOCTYPEs on their pages and then didn't follow the spec for
> that type in their design.
>
> --Sean
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Steve Swinsburg
> <s.swinsburg at lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:
>> I've never understood the logic behind using an attribute that  
>> forces a new
>> browser (IE8) to render in the old mode (IE7).
>>
>> Isn't the DOCTYPE meant to tell the browser what mode to render the  
>> page in?
>> It's kind of getting old having to employ workarounds for Internet  
>> Explorer.
>>
>> Until Sakai can be rendered in IE8 properly, without this silly  
>> workaround,
>> my vote would be to NOT have it on the supported browsers list.
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ---
>> Steve Swinsburg
>> Portal Systems Developer
>> Centre for e-Science
>> Lancaster University
>> Lancaster
>> LA1 4YT
>>
>> email: s.swinsburg at lancaster.ac.uk
>> phone: +44 (0) 1524 594870
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 20 Mar 2009, at 10:04, Adam Marshall wrote:
>>
>>> We've set the ie 7 compatibility header:
>>>
>>> <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=EmulateIE7">
>>>
>>> This entirely fixes any IE 8 issues (or rather, we havent noticed  
>>> anything
>>> that doesnt work).
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>> | -----Original Message-----
>>> | From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-dev-
>>> | bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Knoop, Peter
>>> | Sent: 19 March 2009 19:46
>>> | To: Silverio, Gonzalo; Ron Peterson; sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>> | Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] IE 8
>>> |
>>> | > -----Original Message-----
>>> | > From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-dev-
>>> | > bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Silverio, Gonzalo
>>> | > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:18 PM
>>> | > To: Ron Peterson; sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>> | > Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] IE 8
>>> | >
>>> | > I have been correcting  issues as they are reported in the  
>>> portal and
>>> | > old core tools, for trunk. Tool owners using version specific
>>> | > conditional comments that did not take new versions into  
>>> account (like
>>> | > Resources, to my shame) might want to take a look at their use.
>>> | >
>>> | > On a side note, would the supported browsers list merit  
>>> revision?
>>> |
>>> | http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/QA/Browser+Support
>>> |
>>> | IE8 has not been part of the suite of browsers used regularly by  
>>> the QA
>>> | team for Sakai 2.6, which is currently in the final stages of  
>>> testing.
>>> | I'll leave it to Pete as to when he is planning to add IE8 to  
>>> the mix.
>>>  It
>>> | is certainly likely to be a major browser by later this year for  
>>> Sakai
>>> 2.5
>>> | and 2.6 deployments, if not sooner.  There will likely be a need  
>>> to deal
>>> | with Windows 7 (with its version of IE8 and Firefox) as well in  
>>> the near
>>> | future.
>>> |
>>> | -peter
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | > On 3/19/09 3:10 PM, "Ron Peterson" <rpeterso at mtholyoke.edu>  
>>> wrote:
>>> | > IE 8 is out of beta today.
>>> | >
>>> | > Has anyone used it against Sakai?  I'm mostly interested in  
>>> 2.5.x, but
>>> | > of course it's widespread use will be relevant to all of the  
>>> releases.
>>> | >
>>> | > --
>>> | > Ron Peterson
>>> | > Network & Systems Manager
>>> | > Mount Holyoke College
>>> | > http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~rpeterso
>>> | > facebook: http://tinyurl.com/d63r5c
>>> | > -
>>> | > I wish my computer would do what I want it to do - not what I  
>>> tell it
>>> | > to do.
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