[Building Sakai] Rwiki

Prakash, Savitha savithap at umich.edu
Mon Jul 20 06:16:41 PDT 2009


We was interested to work on few functionalities of rwiki in 2.6, as I have mentioned in my previous emails,since we at umich will be using it atleast for another 2 years or so.  However, at this point of time I am not sure we will be focusing explicitly on bringing wysiwig editor into rwiki, rather we will be working on fixing and bringing other popular features like page/comment hide, site wide/ pagewise permission for comments and others.

So, any inputs to improve the existing wiki, will be helpful.

Thanks,
Savitha


On 7/17/09 4:24 AM, "John Norman" <john at caret.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

I would encourage you to share. It looks as if there is enough
interest elsewhere for limited rWiki development to go ahead, but we
would also be interested in any design input. At present we have
conceived of the content authoring environment in such a way that it
can do all that rWiki does (except implementing the wiki syntax). But
it is not clear to us whether we need to support a wiki as wiki (e.g.
because staff want students to become familiar with the functioning of
a real world wiki, or because students may be reluctant to edit a page
if we don't label it as a wiki) in addition to the page authoring
paradigm.

We haven't done UCD on this aspect and only limited user testing so
far. Most of the conceptual thinking has come from how users used the
wiki and said they wished they could use the wiki.

John

On 16 Jul 2009, at 23:30, Keli Amann wrote:

> Okay that's what I thought. We won't be moving to Sakai 3 for
> probably another 2-3 years however, so I may put some findings out
> to both groups and see who bites--might still be nice to have
> certain things in rwiki while we wait, but not if it means delaying
> next generation.
>
> Keli
>
> On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:42 PM, Ian Boston wrote:
>
>> Keli,
>> John will be able to talk about any ucd that was done on content
>> authoring.
>> All development on rwiki by Cambridge ceased about 9 months ago as
>> we focused on Sakai3. I think the view was that it was made
>> obsolete by content authoring, as everyone wanted a wysiwyg editor.
>> Ian
>>
>> On 16 Jul 2009, at 19:18, Keli Amann wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I had assumed that rWiki work had ceased, since the Cambridge team
>>> is concentrating on 3akai, then I saw this. Is limited development
>>> going on in the background? Is there a sponsoring institution, or
>>> is it being maintained by various individuals at several
>>> institutions?
>>>
>>> We have some feedback from Stanford (from a TWSIA winner who used
>>> the wiki) and could generate more, but I'm not clear if it's worth
>>> it. Has 2.7 prioritization closed? This 2.7 question seems geared
>>> toward clarifying specific feature requests, not soliciting more.
>>>
>>> Ian, has or is anyone at Cambridge doing the same kind of user
>>> research work for content authoring that you did for social
>>> networking? I'm not sure how to feed in user experience
>>> information into either the 2.7 work for wiki or content authoring.
>>>
>>>
>>> Keli Amann
>>> User Experience Specialist, CourseWork
>>> Academic Computing, Stanford University
>>> keli.amann at stanford.edu
>>> 650-644-8113
>>>
>>> On Jul 14, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Prakash, Savitha wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am venturing to add few new features to rwiki (2.7). I wanted
>>>> to get a sense of what community at large wants. Following lists
>>>> the wiki features and possible approaches. Any comments,
>>>> suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Option to delete wiki page (SAK-2963)
>>>>
>>>> I was able to implement an option "delete page" by deleting the
>>>> page records from the rwikiobject table. This would delete the
>>>> page, they will not be listed in index, and there will be no way
>>>> to get the history of this page. What kind of permission should
>>>> be imposed for this feature? I was thinking of giving access to
>>>> "delete page" for those with rwiki.admin or rwiki.superadmin. Any
>>>> thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> 2. Hide option for comments (SAK-11910)
>>>>
>>>> A comment can be completely deleted by using the delete option,
>>>> as mentioned in [1], as each comment is considered as a page in
>>>> rwiki. However this would completely remove the record with no
>>>> history of any previous comments, which might not be desirable to
>>>> some.
>>>> So, we should probably have a hide option, with an additional
>>>> column in rwikiobject table, which records the status of hide.
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> 3. Be able to control Comments in RWiki on a site by site level
>>>> (SAK-8391)
>>>>
>>>> Currently we have a property wiki.comments, to include/exclude
>>>> comments in wiki, however this will be applicable system wide.
>>>>
>>>> In order to have a site wide permission, we need to add a new
>>>> permission say rwiki.comments. This would include changes in
>>>> templates in kernel and osp. How important is this feature to
>>>> make so many changes in different places?
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively, it will be relatively simple implementation to
>>>> have a page-wise permission for comments. By default we can
>>>> switch it on and it can be changed by visiting INFO. Thoughts?
>>>> Concerns?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Savitha
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>>
>
> Thanks,
> Keli
>
>
>



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